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Boyracer
Newbie Joined: 27-July-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30 |
Topic: BMW M3\Evo Posted: 17-November-2003 at 21:37 |
Coupe Owners... Do you have or no a club member considering parting with their M3? I am looking for ideally an Estoril blue coupe M3\Evo... I am prepared to travel to find the right car & have cash waiting... Contact me on Iainblair300@hotmail.com or Iblair@winchester.go.uk Thanks. |
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TOPCAT
Groupie Joined: 19-September-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 88 |
Posted: 18-November-2003 at 09:59 |
Check out the Autotrader on the Internet nationally. I just bought mine about a month ago, searched for around a couple of weeks and was lucky to come across a local one with a excellent history.
It's getting harder to find a genuine one these days especially in the Estoril blue. I found an EVO in white / tan leather that was excellent, but the colour let the car down, it was probably cheaper because of that. I will keep an eye out for you. |
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TOPCAT
Groupie Joined: 19-September-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 88 |
Posted: 18-November-2003 at 17:52 |
Found one on the web www.independantmc.fsnet.co.uk
They have a 97' P reg in Estoril Blue - 53,000 miles for £14,495. Other cheaper EVO's available in different colours. Check it out. It could be what your looking for. Maybe worth calling them and telling them your requirements. Good Luck! |
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Boyracer
Newbie Joined: 27-July-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30 |
Posted: 18-November-2003 at 18:09 |
Many thanx for your help |
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Stone-IslandV8
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2003 Location: North Somerset Status: Offline Points: 3015 |
Posted: 18-November-2003 at 19:22 |
I would initially check other threads on this forum re Independant MC but bet advice is to travel and see as many as possible.
I clocked up 300 miles one Saturday driving and looking at M3s and spent 3 months trawling autotrader and other adverts. Happy hunting |
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Gentlemen I may not have a brain but I do have an idea
Past; E39 540T/E46 328CI/ E39 535/ E39 520/ E36 M3/ E36 318iS jet black Mtech/ E46 320d/ E36 318iS diamond black/ E36 318iS blue Mtech kit |
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Boyracer
Newbie Joined: 27-July-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30 |
Posted: 18-November-2003 at 20:39 |
Have been on the Autotrader web site every night for two weeks now, am trying to stay patient..!! Thanks for your help...
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Stone-IslandV8
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2003 Location: North Somerset Status: Offline Points: 3015 |
Posted: 19-November-2003 at 19:29 |
I got mine from a place in Derby called Jct28 and although apparently they've got a bad press in Ford-circles, I rate them on my experience.
Try the following link-they've got a 3L and an evo: Junct28 |
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Gentlemen I may not have a brain but I do have an idea
Past; E39 540T/E46 328CI/ E39 535/ E39 520/ E36 M3/ E36 318iS jet black Mtech/ E46 320d/ E36 318iS diamond black/ E36 318iS blue Mtech kit |
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Boyracer
Newbie Joined: 27-July-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30 |
Posted: 20-November-2003 at 21:19 |
Why do people mess with M3 evo's? The Boston Green one on that web site looks superb apart from the wheels... maybe im being to picky but its a serious amount of money for a car of its age... Many thanks for the link, will keep looking and let you know how I get one! Is yours Avus Blue? |
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Stone-IslandV8
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2003 Location: North Somerset Status: Offline Points: 3015 |
Posted: 21-November-2003 at 11:03 |
Yup,3L avus blue. The wheels on that evo look like ACS copies.
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Gentlemen I may not have a brain but I do have an idea
Past; E39 540T/E46 328CI/ E39 535/ E39 520/ E36 M3/ E36 318iS jet black Mtech/ E46 320d/ E36 318iS diamond black/ E36 318iS blue Mtech kit |
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Boyracer
Newbie Joined: 27-July-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30 |
Posted: 21-November-2003 at 20:07 |
Will keep you posted on what comes about, thanx for your help & advice.
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M3 Cabby
Newbie Joined: 16-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 23 |
Posted: 21-November-2003 at 21:34 |
Good luck searching for the EVO mate! I was looking for 8 months and there is alot of crap out there. I was after an estoril blue coupe, but i have now brought a M3 Evo Convertible, 99/T for 16,000 with fsh and hardtop etc. I am convinced that the convertibles tend to be looked after compared to the coupes. Another place to try is independent motor co based in Reading. They are really nice lads, pricey, but they have a good selection and there is no crap for sale, its all good motors. They advertise in Top Marques mag. Good luck! |
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Boyracer
Newbie Joined: 27-July-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30 |
Posted: 21-November-2003 at 23:17 |
Ive seen theyre web site & seem to specialise in BMW M3... You're right, there is a lot out there not worth nearly what the owners are asking for, am very wary of Service history & the Vanos belt... some kind of timing chain like a cam belt I've been told to look out for...? Am looking at a Cosmos black, M Registered M3 tomorrow... will let you know how I get on... |
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Stone-IslandV8
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2003 Location: North Somerset Status: Offline Points: 3015 |
Posted: 22-November-2003 at 14:49 |
The vanos unit on the 3L is a single unit whereas the Evos had a double vanos which is prone to problems. There seems to be no rhyme nor reason as to whether they die or not but it seems more prevalent on earlier evos (but that might just be the age of the cars and the newer ones may catch up!!)
A poll on an M3 forum suggested that some 50% of evo owners had had the vanos changed and of that 50% some 40% had had it changed more than once. There seems to be some dispute over whether BMW offer a goodwill gesture towards replacement as it costs £1800 approx on an evo and approx £1100 on a 3L though none of the 3L M3 owners tested in the same poll reported vanos problems. When I was looking I had the option round my £££ for a late low mileage 3L or an early higher mileage evo. Went for the one I felt most positive about, that drove well and had the FSH and 'moved me'!!! There is a lot of uncared for dross about. |
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Gentlemen I may not have a brain but I do have an idea
Past; E39 540T/E46 328CI/ E39 535/ E39 520/ E36 M3/ E36 318iS jet black Mtech/ E46 320d/ E36 318iS diamond black/ E36 318iS blue Mtech kit |
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Boyracer
Newbie Joined: 27-July-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30 |
Posted: 23-November-2003 at 21:34 |
Test drove a cosmos black M3, 1995, 90,000 Miles - most service history, long tax & mot - up for sale at £10,250 - a lot of money I felt, particulary as it needs a service & two new tyres. It HASNT had the Vanos unit changed - should I be worried about this? What sort of value do you think the car may hold bearing in mind it doesnt have a leather interior & requires those additional tyres & service...? |
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sailorbaz
Really Senior Member II (Former) Scottish Region Wean Joined: 02-August-2003 Location: Northern Ireland Status: Offline Points: 961 |
Posted: 23-November-2003 at 23:53 |
I've not long had my Evo and it's not had the Vanos done. Now ideally, i wanted warrenty and that way you'd never have to worry about any problems such as the Vanos. I never did find a decent one witgh warrenty, and after 6 weeks got fed up and just went for one I found sound enough. Like Jon says above, 50% of Evo owners have had Vanos probs with 40% of that 50% having second units installed. The way I look at it, if its done over 70000 miles, it should have had Vanos probs, if it was going to have any at all by now. Apparently, when it has gone, (Alloy looking unit at front of engine, just incase! ) sounds like marbles rolling around in tin when it has gone. Hope this helps. |
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TOPCAT
Groupie Joined: 19-September-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 88 |
Posted: 24-November-2003 at 13:58 |
A friend of mine has re-built an EVO from scratch as he races 2 of them with a racing team abroad.
I will ask him about the VANOS subject and the general cost to expect as I would of thought he wouldn't have it done by a BM dealer, he would do it himself, being as I would expect him to have more indepth knowledge. Edited by TOPCAT |
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TOPCAT
Groupie Joined: 19-September-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 88 |
Posted: 24-November-2003 at 14:05 |
I can't tell for definate but the alloy looking unit that Saliorbaz mentioned looks very clean and new looking on the EVO I bought recently. Thats if it is the VANOS unit. Do they all look new? When there not?
That could be one thing to look for when looking around at a few. Should it say in the Service History? Receipts? |
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98' M3 EVO Coupé - 321 Bhp |
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Stone-IslandV8
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2003 Location: North Somerset Status: Offline Points: 3015 |
Posted: 24-November-2003 at 15:13 |
Iain
If the cars in top notch condition it isnt a bad price. I know of someone who's just sold a 1995 3L standard with fsh and 60,000 and got 13k for it cos of the low mileage and superb condition throughout. The 3L vanos problem is almost non-existent compared the the problem on the evos-I wouldnt have thought it was a problem. Did u see the 3L at Junction 28s website? John |
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Gentlemen I may not have a brain but I do have an idea
Past; E39 540T/E46 328CI/ E39 535/ E39 520/ E36 M3/ E36 318iS jet black Mtech/ E46 320d/ E36 318iS diamond black/ E36 318iS blue Mtech kit |
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senny
Senior Member II Joined: 30-September-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 231 |
Posted: 24-November-2003 at 19:22 |
Hey there guys, Im still looking for a 3lt M3. Its been 2 months now and still no luck. A good place to try would be Munich Legands. They are VERY good and only sell the best. I really mean that. Im going to take a look at a 3lt there this week. They are based in a small village called Chelwood Gate near Haywards Heath down in Sussex. Guys ive got 11-12k to spend on a 3lt, if u c 1 gimmie a buzz cheers Darren |
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Stone-IslandV8
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2003 Location: North Somerset Status: Offline Points: 3015 |
Posted: 24-November-2003 at 19:39 |
Darren
I'm still looking too-the GT had gone and the Alpinas just aren't doing it for me I'm afraid. Tony-vanos is at front of the engine unit and alloy looking. Won't say on the service schedule but I would have thought there'd be receipts. I've heard the vanos when its on its way out sounds like , as sailorbaz said, marbles in a tin and can apparently be best heard by revving the engine to 3500rpm and then listening for it as the revs drop down. Its also been described as a diesel sounding engine. John |
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Gentlemen I may not have a brain but I do have an idea
Past; E39 540T/E46 328CI/ E39 535/ E39 520/ E36 M3/ E36 318iS jet black Mtech/ E46 320d/ E36 318iS diamond black/ E36 318iS blue Mtech kit |
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