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You're right and I have, that's why I generalised it into swedish seats not only Volvo; my uncle in Denmark has a 9-5 Aero and the seats are indeed superb.

I think two of the best things in a volvo are the seats. I wish BMW would make seats as good as the swedes.

Volvo Volvo

as I said,,,   driven by older gents more mature in there years.....boring cars yawn yawn.

Ben O Brien wrote: And is probably worth anywhere between 1500 quid and 3 grand now!!  Great car to buy second hand, not so much to buy one new!

And you're point being?? I obviously didn't buy it new so I don't really care... You will find that pretty much every Volvo with the exception of the XC90 has terrible residuals.


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Mick525i wrote: My 65 year old uncle drives one Nice car though. Mick

They are basically an 850, and everyone knows that car. I love my car anyway, I don't care if it's an ould geezer's car! My S70 cost IRL£45,000 new!!

A dog leg gearbox is an unusual manual transmission layout, an up-over-up shift between first and second gear resembling the hind leg of a dog.

R  2  4       1  3  5
|  |  |       |  |  |
---N---       ---N---
|  |  |       |  |  |
1  3  5       2  4  R
Dog leg     More common 
pattern     "H" pattern

Dog leg layout gearboxes are usually found on performance automobiles because in road racing it is rare to shift into first gear other than for the initial start or exiting a pit lane.

Notable street cars to feature the dog leg layout are the BMW M535 and (Non-US) M3 E30, Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 and 2.5-16, Porsche 914, early 911, 924 Turbo (all featuring Getrag gearboxes), Talbot Sunbeam Lotus and the Lamborghini Miura. A non-performance car to feature such a shift pattern is the Subaru 360. Also: Datsun 160J Hardtop SSS. A dog leg transmission has also been seen in odd places such as a 1980 Datsun 210 Wagon built during the 210/310 crossover or a Citroen 2CV. The mid 70's Oldsmobile Cutlass with the 260 V8 had an optional 5 speed transmission that utilized the dog leg shift pattern.

635CSi wrote: Mick525i wrote: LOL, but I was really just asking out of curiosity. So go on 635, tell us, whats your transport? Mick I drive a Volvo S70, somehow I think I've mentioned this before. I love it, it's sprightly, it's very comfortable as Volvo's go and has a bit of prestige. It doesn't really suit my image though, I'm half the age of the average driver of one of these! I've owned a rusty old E30 which went to the scrapper, that counts me as a former BMW owner. Bear in mind that just because I'm a Volvo driver doesn't mean I'm not a die hard Bimmer fan...

My 65 year old uncle drives one

Nice car though.

Mick

Lesurely, If you want to check any BMW out for service history that has a FULL BMW service history go to your local BMW dealer and talk to them very nicely and give them the VIN number and they can pull up every single service, wiper blade, bulb etc. that has ever been put on the car.

I got a full history on my car after I got it and was very impressed as to the detail that was in the print-out!

It even gives you a list of the factory fitted options/extras that are on the car!

flyingalexf68 wrote: Is your Volvo an auto or manual 635? And have you ever driven a modern auto? The Steptronic auto's in todays BMW's are far superior to most old stlye slush boxes. In auto mode they change quickly and smoothly and always at the right time. Going down a hill or braking they will downchange one or more gears depending on how you're driving and kickdown is usually perfect. And of course you can put it in manual mode and change your own gears. Basically I think the Steptronic is perfectly suited to the 5 series (especially a diesel one) and it doesn't detract from the driving experience at all. I wouldn't even consider a manual gearbox if I was buying a any 5 series. Unless it was an M5.

My Volvo is a manual, it would be more suited to an auto because it is more of a cruiser than an 'ultimate driving machine'. It's comfort orientated rather than involving, the gearbox in it has a bit of a long throw but is still pleasant to use. My preference in an A6 or an E Class would obviously be auto but in a 5 Series it would definitely be manual.

Well I guess it's personal preference, I have driven a 525i Steptronic and it was alright but I still would have preferred a manual, I drove a manual 520i recently and loved it, I like the dogleg gearbox. I could imagine with all the power from the 525i combined with that gearbox would be phenomenal! I admit the Steptronic is a brilliant gearbox, it's fine in a bigger Bimmer such as a 6 Series or 7 Series but from 1 Series to 5 Series I have to say I would prefer manual.

Actually come to think of it, we have gone majorly off topic here!!!


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Mick525i wrote: None taken. Yep proberly a bit buoyest but I have always thought large exec saloon's sell best in Auto Trim. If Im tearing accross the hills I would much prefair a manual box anyday. But for normal day to day driving the Auto suits very well. 1 1/2 hours into abbey street from rathfarnham this morning in traffic. never changed gear once. never even had to move my left foot. Mick

By the way, I was referring to only the 5 Series when I said manual is better because I feel the auto totally blunts the driving experience. I believe that every other executive cars should have a slusher though.