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    Posted: 05-July-2006 at 23:13

'I found very quickly that my dislike for diesels was based on prejudice and myth (like the tonnes of black soot issue someone mentioned ... ). '

Yes I'll admit I'm prejudiced but I have seen quite a few smokey diesels recently, the worst being a merc clk270. I've noticed driving on the contintent that diesels, even really old ones aren't smokey at all, maybe they look after there cars better there. Don't get me wrong modern diesels are great, fast and economical and are probably better suited for our congested roads. The thing is though, I just don't want one.

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Hi Dergside. Yep, you are dead right, if my company hadnt loaded the options I would not have made my original choice a diesel. Having experienced a diesel because I had to, however, I found very quickly that my dislike for diesels was based on prejudice and myth (like the tonnes of black soot issue someone mentioned ... ). The point which I didnt make clear was that I opted out of the rat race in 2001 (now run my own business) and have since bought diesels out of personal choice. They drive differently, to be sure, but do not (at least in my opinion) drive in any way worse - or better - than a petrol. You pays yer money ... As I said, my choice is and will be at least for a while, a diesel. Hope this helps 
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Yeah just because diesels produce lower C02 emmissions doesn't make them more environmentally friendly, what about all the particulates they put out, that can't be good.
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Points: 4000 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-July-2006 at 17:47

Originally posted by andy 330d andy 330d wrote:

But you wont catch me going petrol for a little while anyway ...... 

Andy, just curious, if the company car tax system wasn't loaded against the petrol engine, which would you choose?
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Seems to me the only reasons people buy diesels is for torque and fuel economy which is fine but they'll never be as exciting to drive as a decent petrol engined car. Also the amount of new diesel cars I've seen with tonnes of black soot coming out of the back has put me right off. If diesel is so good why aren't Porsche and Ferrari developing diesel engines?
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Sorry Peter, no. Im one of those people who used to spit on diesels, but company car rules made my only decent choice to be a 330d. Grudgingly I made my selection accordingly.  I was completely gobsmacked at how much I liked it - all the torque (and have a look at exactly how much ....) is right there at 1500 rpm upwards. And I liked it so much I bought two more afterwards....... 

Peter have you driven one? I suspect not, although of course you may have. On the other hand how many times in town driving do you get your petrol to 5-6000 revs? All the horses are there but locked away. Not so with diesels.

Clearly everyone will have their favourites and make their choices accordingly. And thats fine. But you wont catch me going petrol for a little while anyway ...... 

 
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Points: 6484 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-June-2006 at 11:44

Originally posted by andy 330d andy 330d wrote:

Cant think why anyone would go for a petrol ........  

Because petrol engine sound nicer, rev higher and offer a more sporting drive. Your head says Deisel your heart says petrol.
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Cheers. Will do mate.

collecting the arm rest Sat morning so will let you have the part number over the weekend
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Originally posted by MRPoisson MRPoisson wrote:

Sohlmon

just ordered the centre arm rest from my main dealer £115 & 10% discount as Im a priviledge member. Found fitting instructions on the net - looks straight forward.

Thats very cheap compared to my dealer. Can you forward me the part numbers and i will go into my dealer and have a bit of a haggle with my dealer making maximum use of the BMWCC discount.

Car sounds great well done. Do keep us informed of how you get on.

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do you mind me asking how much you paid? looking to know what i should ask for mine . PM me if you'd rather. mines basically the same apart from Xenons.

 
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Cheers, will do.

320cd m sport in silver-grey, full black leather, bluetooth, 18"MV2 alloys.
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enjoy it. what spec have you got??
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Sohlmon

just ordered the centre arm rest from my main dealer £115 & 10% discount as Im a priviledge member. Found fitting instructions on the net - looks straight forward.
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Already done the deal - collect on Sat!  Only trouble is my Samsung phone isn't compatible with the BMW Bluetooth. always something!
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Points: 3 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-June-2006 at 19:15

Ķ also have a 04 320cd M sport and am very happy with it. Performance great mid range and handling superb. mine is also in silver grey with black leather and when clean looks amazing. actually thinking of selling it due to job commitments. send a PM if interested.

would definately reccomend one.

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Points: 50 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-June-2006 at 17:56
Absolutely, its only £120 as a factory option. The dealer quoted me £280+ vat fitted so maybe the price they gave you was fitted? I'm going to order it this week, so I'll check that everything is included for £120 & let you know
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I think the £280 + vat includes everything but fitting. It's not just the rest, but you need a completely different centre console. However if your dealer can get everything for that price then i will drive up there today as i do want one, but don't want to pay 280 +vat.
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My main dealer wanted £96+ vat for imitation leather & £118 + vat for real leather. (supply only)  Will everything be included then if your dealer wants £280 + vat?
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premiumfaraplum - 45 mpg at 80. Been doing this for ages up and down M3 to Southampton, Portsmouth. (330d SE to be precise). Take it or leave it, Ive nothing to gain by telling porkies.
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Late model 320d are very brisk and with a chip are 330d performance. Not revy like the 320, but very nice and lower reving on the motorway particulary with the 6 speed box. Certainly a great car.

Centre arm rest is £280 + vat from BMW, less from indendents and ebay. Very easy to fit 4 screws.  I am still looking for one for my 320.

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