how much faster is a m3

Yeah i did see those, ran something like 800bhp in track ready state didn't they?  1440bhp from a 1400cc has to be a bit of a bitch to drive.

The M10 was the original racing engine was it not?  Sleeved to a 1400cc and turbocharged.  Very stong engine indeed.

Santos.L.Helper wrote: Sorry for being thick, but what engine size is the E30 M3? And why make it a 4 cylinder when you have got a great 6? I thought weight,but obviously this isnt the case.

E30 M3 started off just under 2 litres. Later models / EVO's got massaged, eventually up to 2.5

Why 4 pot and not 6 pot? Because the M3 was originally designed for competition, and the regulations at the time stated 4 pot, so BMW took a 6 pot, and chopped 2 cylinders off it!

I have a M3 & 325i, both are v v quick, but the 325 is s m o o t h power, whilst the M3 is RAW, and all arms to keep up on the gearbox........and great GREAT Fun!

Oh yes, and it will p*ss all over the 325 (& most other cars) on corners (& roundabouts) !!!



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It was the Evo Sport that was 2.5 all others were 2.3, Evo, Checotto, Ravaglia etc

Santos.L.Helper wrote: Sorry for being thick, but what engine size is the E30 M3? And why make it a 4 cylinder when you have got a great 6? I thought weight,but obviously this isnt the case.

If you think back, when the E30 M3 was introduced it was the first BMW to have 4 valves per cylinder and the straight 6 was only 2 valves per cylinder.

You were correct aswell it is actually lighter than the straight 6 lump. Im sure there are reasons I have omitted

Sorry for being thick, but what engine size is the E30 M3? And why make it a 4 cylinder when you have got a great 6? I thought weight,but obviously this isnt the case.

falkster wrote: paul325i wrote: E36 328 against an E30 M3...if it was a standard M3 i think i'd have trouble in a straight line to stay ahead Dont agree!! I had an E36 328 as my company car and now have an E30 M3 and by far the E30 is a better car. The only thing better on the E36 is the fact that its refined but thats the whole idea with the E30. Also the E36 handles like a water bed on wheels until fettled by E30 sticks to the road like nobodiesbusiness

 

Yeah i agree on the twisty stuff but a said in a straight line, a 328i will stay with a standard M3 E30, i'm not talking EVO versions.  The M3 will definatley out handle it though thats what they're meant for.

paul325i wrote: E36 328 against an E30 M3...if it was a standard M3 i think i'd have trouble in a straight line to stay ahead

Dont agree!! I had an E36 328 as my company car and now have an E30 M3 and by far the E30 is a better car. The only thing better on the E36 is the fact that its refined but thats the whole idea with the E30.

Also the E36 handles like a water bed on wheels until fettled by E30 sticks to the road like nobodiesbusiness

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im to old to race, was just interested in how much faster they are.was thinking maybe next year trading in my soft top for a m3 soft top,is there much more expence involved ie servicing,repairs.and things to watch out for i like the m3 e36.evo.the six gear thing sounds good to me and looks good to,any info would be gratful,also could you tell me how to get my pic of me car like you guys have

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Paul

All through the gears, get it above 3300rpm and it just keeps on pulling and pulling- the torque curve is superb up to about 6900rpm-as flat as ayers rock!!

Pull is good 80+ and thats where these things surprise a lot of people, espec the 200bhp+ recent hot hatches and imprezzas etc-they keep up at lower speeds but just lose it over the haul. Problem the E36 hits is its so smooth and comfortable you don't get a sense of just how fast you're going!

John