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B 7 VP
Really Senior Member II Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
Topic: Nurburgring 8th-9th-10th August Posted: 01-January-2005 at 06:46 |
Nurburgring,s Closed Nordschleife Circuit, for the 3 Day Better Driving Course will be Monday 8th August-Wednesday 10th.Price will be confirmed in near future. New Special agreement with Clubs "NEW Partner- SEAFRANCE" , on the Dover/Calais service , give discounts on Standard and Special Rates for Club Members.Details in next Magazine. |
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texas2201
Really Senior Member I Joined: 27-July-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 278 |
Posted: 10-January-2005 at 02:52 |
Great I will book the time off - and await details
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Martin - www.iconicmotorcars.co.uk
E30 M3 now sold :-(/Lotus Elan SE Turbo/Lotus Excel SE/Lotus Excel SA/Audi A8 - now Tow Barge - Quattro 4.2 |
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 24-January-2005 at 03:13 |
Just found this on nurburgring.org: "Following an accident years ago in which either a wheel or suspension component failed, BMW changes the tyres every 10 laps, the brake-pads every 20 laps and the suspension every 50 laps. The cars are replaced annually."
What is this likely to do to our cars? |
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B 7 VP
Really Senior Member II Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
Posted: 24-January-2005 at 08:08 |
Nothing---------------Unless YOU decide to run off the super surfaced track.At This moment in time--the Ring is Closed for its annual surface improvements, ironing out a bump or getting a better camber on a corner.Improvements to Flugplatz , Schwedenkreuz, and the middle section of Adenauer Forst(where some go straight on)to give drivers a surface, instead of grass - works are in progress. If this report relates to BMW AG going Racing, presume they know what they are doing??.But--if you drive over All the Kerbs, rumble strips etc, you would have to accept it-but lose some races if its suspension rebuilds.Tyres and pads at racing speeds, like all teams. In visits over 25 years,of 3 day events- No tyres , renew part worn pads 1-2, (should have fitted New Before I went-lesson learnt) What suspension ??, When you 1st Ring drive, you are TOO fast and Too early going IN--so untill you learn to be smooth, and follow the advice given, pads and Disc,s will wear.Like they do at Brands-Donington etc.
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 24-January-2005 at 08:25 |
It was an article about the Ring Taxi. So, presumably, since you've noted me down as a potential sucker for this one, you'll let me know what all I have to do to prepare... ? |
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B 7 VP
Really Senior Member II Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
Posted: 24-January-2005 at 10:29 |
That Z1 was honed to perfection on the Nordschleife, can show you around with its headlights dipped--
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Nick
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Posted: 24-January-2005 at 12:51 |
May I politely suggest that you inspect your lower control arms.. there can be a lot of fatigue there especially on fast circuits like the 'Ring. The ball joint takes a lot of G force and thats a lot of strain for a little bit of metal to take.
Some trackday folk, esp the Merkins with their long banked ovals consider the lower ball joint as a consumable. Part time circuit drivers (like me) don't have to worry so much... but if I were to 'Ring the car as a regular pastime then I would certainly be looking down there. |
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MattP
Groupie Joined: 15-January-2005 Location: S.Wales Status: Offline Points: 47 |
Posted: 24-January-2005 at 13:01 |
Any idea of how far is it over there? (distance in miles)
Its something that iv really wanted to do for ages. Have to see how much its likly to cost :) |
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B 7 VP
Really Senior Member II Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
Posted: 25-January-2005 at 07:06 |
Wise words Nick But- I would suggest that the cr-p conditions on UK roads, are the cause of 99.9% of suspension failure,s and expence for drivers. I note that a Large Insurer, is discussing with 5 County Authorities ,the Fact that they have NOT repaired the roads--resulting in the public claiming off the councils for Suspension and Wheel/Tyre damage. As the insurer has to pay the councils claims, it has "Discussed" Future cover--perhaps it may make the councils spend taxpayers cash on the roads, DONT hold your breath Going back to the Nurburgring info on changing suspension-Tyres-Pads--on the Ring Taxi--Part of the Lap Ride includes lots of "Riding the Kerbs"for effect, so Heavy M5 = lots of Renews, if you the driver had to pay the bills--you keep off.
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 25-January-2005 at 07:55 |
It's about 515 miles from Cardiff. |
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AdznKi
Groupie Joined: 06-February-2005 Location: Central Region Status: Offline Points: 94 |
Posted: 05-March-2005 at 17:03 |
Stupid question I know, but bear with me, as a complete novice to track days. ie, never done one!!!!! If I was considering doing the Nurburgring, what kind of speeds and stresses could I expect on my car. If I'm only intending to do it purely for the experience! Plus, whats the cost |
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Adam B
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kevin
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 29-November-2002 Location: Camberley, Surrey Status: Offline Points: 3189 |
Posted: 05-March-2005 at 22:03 |
adam
I did this course last year and would strongly recommend it. A few words of caution, it will get you hooked on the Nurburgring. Stresses on your car, petrol...and provided you treat it as a learning experience that will be it. I was worried but despite it's length it is fairly easy on the car. The major wear will be on you, your brain and body. Take something to snack on and also drinks. Speed, whatever you feel comfortable with, but I would expect you all get to 120-130mph easily at various places. Cost will be around £600 for the course plus petrol to get there and around (1300 miles ish), channel crossing £120, hotel circa £50 per night (5 nights) and then food and drink. You and your car would have a great time |
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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
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AdznKi
Groupie Joined: 06-February-2005 Location: Central Region Status: Offline Points: 94 |
Posted: 06-March-2005 at 06:26 |
Thanks for the reply Kevin, I appreciate it. Can partners (the better half ) be in the car whilst your on track. I presume helmets must be worn?
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Adam B
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kevin
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 29-November-2002 Location: Camberley, Surrey Status: Offline Points: 3189 |
Posted: 06-March-2005 at 08:04 |
Yes you can have a passenger in the car, last year I think there were 5 passengers in our group, including my better half Gill.
I just received my invite to this year event and it is €990 for the driver and €185 for the passenger. This includes a welcome dinner on the Sunday, midday meal on the Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday as well as the farewell dinner on the Wednesday evening. The wearing of helmets is recommended and mandatory for convertibles. During the section by section instruction you might find a helmet would get in the way as you are in and out of the car a lot. Hope this helps |
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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
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AdznKi
Groupie Joined: 06-February-2005 Location: Central Region Status: Offline Points: 94 |
Posted: 06-March-2005 at 13:47 |
Cheers Kevin, its helped a lot - I'll have to give it some serious consideration now!!!
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Adam B
2001 E39 M5 - Titanium Silver |
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B 7 VP
Really Senior Member II Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
Posted: 08-March-2005 at 11:33 |
Adam B, to assist your consideration go www.fahrerlehrgang.info which will answer lots of questions. The Nordschleife circuit is closed to the Public for the 3 days.So you dont go into a blind section and find a Motorhome or Tourist Bus, doing the sightseeing bit---as happens when the buy 5 laps drivers, do the public days , and sometimes see the results on lowloaders.It can be a great one off visit--Or a yearly Pilgrimage.Safety IS No 1, as well as an enjoyable drive, without the UK Govt brainwash-You know it will make sense. |
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AdznKi
Groupie Joined: 06-February-2005 Location: Central Region Status: Offline Points: 94 |
Posted: 09-March-2005 at 18:10 |
Thanks John
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Adam B
2001 E39 M5 - Titanium Silver |
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shoestring7
Senior Member II Joined: 24-December-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 215 |
Posted: 06-April-2005 at 09:25 |
Is there a way of pre-registering for this BDD? SS7 |
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B 7 VP
Really Senior Member II Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
Posted: 06-April-2005 at 09:35 |
shoestring7--if you go back 3 posts above--log onto the website I gave, and you can book your Entry Details.If you require Hotel and Ferry details, send me a pm. |
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shoestring7
Senior Member II Joined: 24-December-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 215 |
Posted: 08-April-2005 at 11:48 |
Thanks for that! I hadn't realised it was an international event. I'm particularly intrigued by the promise of: Guard rails - Safety Training and the thought that I could be enjoying: "BMW M3 in sqadron entry Karussel" regards SS7 |
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