middle lane drivers

im sorry but im going to have a rant!.After a drive out to kent on sunday i have noticed a fashion occuring on our roads,on a three lane motorway(M25) most people doing 50mph stay in the middle lane even if there is no-one for miles ahead on the left!when approaching these drivers they see you in a bmw and think "im not pulling over for you in your flash car"and just sit there!then when you flash them or move into the' BMW LANE' or right hand lane as non bmw drivers would call it you get filthy looks and sometimes the odd hand signals (not the ones in the highway code!).Apparantly our so called government are going to do something about this,not sure how as they are too busy employing pc's hiding behind bushes with camera's catching safe drivers like ourselves enjoying our 'ultimate driving machines' Phew glad i've got that off my chest your views would be appreciated as im sure im not alone.

I must add that i do not drive like a lunatic, carving people up on british roads flashing my headlights,just enjoy driving correctly OOPS that sounds a bit pipe and slippers but you get what i mean!

This is a club recognized by the Police, free membership apart from the odd summons.

It is known as CLOC, the center lane owners club.

I have asked for an answer to this within my driving circles, their advice is 3 lane carriageway : overtake as normal but use indicators to move from lane 3 to lane 1 ( we aren't normally encouraged to use indicators to move left on multi lane roads, as we shouldn't be causing anyone to change direction or speed).

2 lane carriageway: there just isn't an answer, undertake and your wrong, intimidate and your wrong, you may flash your lights to indicate your presence, but in my experience that rarely achieves anything.

You can actually follow these people with blues and two's, and still they don't move, often seen on the camera action type TV programs.

Nigel wrote: 2 lane carriageway: there just isn't an answer, undertake and your wrong, intimidate and your wrong, you may flash your lights to indicate your presence, but in my experience that rarely achieves anything.

They should change the law so that you can ram them off the road then pepper the  car with machine gun fire and finally finish it of with a bazooka!! 

I have to admit I have been known to undertake them when on a dual carridgeway. There used to be a bloke who went the same way to work as me and he never got above 35mph even on the dual carridgeway. What made it even more anoying was that he would get in the righthand lane in preparation for tuning right at a roundabout when he was about 3 miles away!!  The tail back he created was enormous.

2 lane carriageway: there just isn't an answer, undertake and your wrong, intimidate and your wrong, you may flash your lights to indicate your presence, but in my experience that rarely achieves anything.

hey jamie

this topic has been a rant for me for years of driving lots...and there was me just thinking it was me that wanted to kill the mid lane types lolololol  well at least i wasnt on my own .it was a good topic you brought up

Jamie

AAAAARRRRRGGGHHH don't get me started on these drivers!

You should try driving along the M8 in Glasgow then!  Nothing but middle lane drivers.  This HAS to be the worst Mway for middle lane drivers.  It's at its worse when the road is quiet,  I work on the Railways and end up working night shifts, driving to work at 12 midnight and back home at 5am and you see them all lined up in the middle lane for no reason whatsoever, they then signal into the slow lane (Sorry Nigel I know that's not the proper speak for that lane, it's lane 3 isn't???) so they obviously do know it exists they and aren't totally against using it and then go off to the airport for the first flight of the day.

My theory is that due to the fact that the M8 has a high number of on and off ramps per given mile the people who can't cope with cars joining in front of them position themselves in the middle lane just so they 'are out the way'.

A colleague of mine who also works nights with me and we share a lift, hates this too, he reckons at 5am you see the middle lane drivers out in force as they are all tired and they drive in the middle lane so that if they fall asleep they have a lane each side to recover from a sleep induced drift!

Remember you did say 'Sunday' well thats the prime time for middle lane drivers.

Rant over... feel better.

Andrew

Was up past Loch Lomond yesterday.  Loads of people use that road along side that loch and only do 40-45 mph in a national speed limit stretch.  You just can't quite see far enough to overtake in some places and there are only a few good overtaking opportunities and if there is oncomming traffic you are stuck from Tarbet to Balloch.  Booo.

Mind I did 17,000 miles in 8 months on the A82 so I do know all the overtaking points and all the ins and outs of the twisty bit north of Tarbet, tis great fun with the steptronic autobox, don't touch the brakes on the bends just down shift and listen to the 6 pot sing out a great noise........ 

Tarbet in Argyll & Bute to give it its proper title. There are loads of Tarbets and Tarberts all around the west coast.  Don't know of Killbery.

This Tarbet is halfway up Loch Lomond on the A82.  The twisty stretch is North of Tarbet up to Inverarnan where the Drovers pub is.

What way did you come back from Fort Willie?  I can only think of one set of 'rulers' on the black stuff and thats at the bottom of a straight stretch between Tyndrum and Crianlarich but there is no camera there....I hope...

Andrew

PS Whats IIRC stand for?

Ta muchly

Andrew