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Coasting ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() www.TOTALTORQUE.net Joined: 05-February-2005 Location: Not with the two-faced bloke. Status: Offline Points: 2125 |
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It looks to be in very nice exterior condition from those pictures. Good to see someone so happy with a purchase too!
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Philip ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() E23 the forgotten 80s BMW Joined: 28-January-2005 Location: Essex Status: Offline Points: 1425 |
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Bodywork looks really sound Doive, when you gonna get the head fixed? Will you do the job yourself?
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Philip
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Doive ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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I don't have the equipment necessary to do it myself i.e. no workshop,
but was having a good snoop round the head this afternoon and
everything looks fairly straight forward. Been told that once you put a
spanner to them, they more or less come apart in your hands, such is
the quality of engineering. No seized bolts or rounded heads (so I'm
told!). There is a specialist literally across the road from my flat
who builds up track day E30's for fun, and when I told him I was
thinking of getting a 525e he almost wet himself. Problem is that if
the head itself is cracked, the whole thing may be a boat anchor as I
understand these heads are like hens teeth.
Anyway, I'm taking her across for a once over on monday. When I had her jump started, I noticed that there was a puff of smoke came out of the engine in the area where the manifold joins the head - is this likely to be manifold gasket, or something related to the head gaket? Doesn't really matter anyway, it will all be coming off to fix the blown head gasket. Once that's done, I'm a very gentle driver (I drive a chevette after all) and the lazy torque of the 2.7 should be happy for another 77k miles. Think of me on monday afternoon and pray! |
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Rhys ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Coffee addict... Joined: 02-February-2003 Location: from the Latin locātiō Status: Offline Points: 10053 |
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Nice pic's, scrubs up well doesn't it
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Tetleysmooth ![]() Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-February-2005 Location: Rainham, Essex Status: Offline Points: 236 |
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Doive, you've done well for yourself there geezer. Hope I can find one that looks as nice. |
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If you've got it, a lorry brought it.
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eta. ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() Joined: 21-October-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 599 |
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Doive, as the engine runs, then she is worth saving. eta's are fantastic cars. The profile of a buyer was usually, private, either retired or a professional so likely to be better treated than a 520 or 535 say.
There are specialist breakers around if you need a head. Put up a fresh post when you know whats what. |
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Andyboy ![]() Banned User ![]() ![]() Joined: 04-June-2003 Status: Offline Points: 707 |
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You don't NEED to fit another 525e head. I took one
off a car I scrapped for the 2.7 short engine and sold the head on ebay for 20 quid. The best head to fit would be a standard 320i/520i unit complete with the 2 litre cam, the numbers on the side for which ends in '731' (yours is 200). The head and cam goes straight on and will give you an extra 25 bhp and make it into quite a decent old bus. |
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Philip ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() E23 the forgotten 80s BMW Joined: 28-January-2005 Location: Essex Status: Offline Points: 1425 |
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andyboy, will the 320/520 head wreck the famous eta fuel economy?
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Philip
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Doive ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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Unfortunately I'm a bit of a stickler for originality, so if possible
I'd like to keep her standard. Of course as a last resort I'd put a
520i head on (nothing to do with that 25hp extra), but will the valve
duration not be completely different so changing the power delivery?
Been told the 2.7 is a lovely lazy torquey old beast, with decent fuel
economy when you are taking it easy. This is all speculation at the
moment, as we haven't had the head off her yet.
I found myself last night at 2am sitting in the freezing cold inside the car, staring around in mild to medium disbelief at what I'd bought. It's addictive. Went out this afternoon, opened the bonnet and stood staring for about ten minutes. It's very sad. Thanks for the encouragement guys, although as you can probably tell from my posts I had no intention of ever letting her go back to the scrapyard! ![]() |
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robs e23 ![]() Really Senior Member I ![]() ![]() Joined: 28-January-2005 Location: colchester essex Status: Offline Points: 498 |
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thats going to be a nice e28,when the heads done. spring is coming so the good weather will be on your side soon. are you going to post some more pics soon, rob.
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Doive ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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Please don't tempt me to take more pics, I only have 15Mb web space!! I
would completely fill it with pictures of the car if I had the chance.
I'll get some more pics of the car some day when the sun comes out, or
else when I get a chance to polish her all up. I'll take a picture of
my flatmates face when he comes back this evening to see the big beast
parked in our space. I like photography, so over the spring/summer I'll
try and get pics of her in scenic locations across Scotland.
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Doive ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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One thing I forgot to ask. I noticed an E30 325i for sale online, and
it has the rev counter red lined at 4500rpm the same as the 525e. I
thought this limit only applied to the 2.7 long stroke engine, so were
some of the E30's fitted with this engine? I'm just thinking in terms
of worst case scenario, sources of replacement eta heads.
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Nigel ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
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Excuse my ignorance, but is the head being talked about the M20 engine ? I know the later E28's and early E34's like mine shared the M20 engine. |
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Doive ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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Its a confusing one, but from what I understand the smaller E28 sixes
including the 525e had the M20 'little six' engine, whilst the bigger
engined ones from the 525i (I think) upwards had the M30 'big six'
engine. One of the main differences between them is that the M20 had
belt driven cams, while the M30 had chain driven cams. I have a belt
driven cam in mine, so its definitely the M20. I suppose in theory the
head from a 520 should fit the 525e, but there must be subtle
differences - is the bore in the 525e not smaller than the 520i? I know
the stroke is quite a bit longer.
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eta. ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() Joined: 21-October-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 599 |
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The 525e is definately the 'small 6' M20 cam belt engine.
There was a 325e (saw one in Australia) but not for the UK market. So, if the car you saw advertised was in the UK, it could be an import, or someone has fitted the wrong instrumentation. The 520i and 525e have identical bhp's, but the 520 with an auto box was a bit of a 'slug' - the 'eta' was just so powerful by comparison which shows bhp is not the be all and end all. |
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Doive ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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No I agree, torque is essential to a fast car. The 525e spec makes interesting reading - 125bhp but a massive 177lb/ft of torque. This is reflected in the performance figures with 0-60 being a relatively long 12 seconds, but I'd love to see the in gear and kickdown acceleration times! As comparison the 524td had similar torque, now that is impressive for a petrol engine. To be fair the 325 I saw was left hand drive but it was british registered, was just wondering what the link may have been with the 'eta' engine. Keeping my hopes up for a positive verdict this evening from my man in the know. |
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M3AG ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() 7 series & e36 m3 registrar! (Madness) Joined: 17-October-2002 Location: Good Old Hertfordshire Status: Offline Points: 1644 |
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are there any 524t's still around? I saw one on eBay last year, looked sound, but was told parts are almost impossible to find over here!
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Doive ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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I've never seen one - in fact until last week I had no idea that such a car ever existed. Be interesting to have a drive in one, I'd love an older diesel. Almost bought an SD1 2400 TD off eBay a few weeks ago. 90bhp moving a big lump like that, and turbo lag you could use as an egg timer. Glad I didn't though, or else I would never have come across the 525!
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Doive ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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Quick very happy update on the 525e - Doive one happy chicken. Turns
out the oil pressure switch is faulty, causing the oil light on the
dash to flicker on. The last owner just kept on chucking oil into it,
of course it had nothing to do with oil pressure! My specialist drained
SEVEN LITRES of oil out of the car - the sump holds three and a half.
He said the oil was everywhere, blocked the breathers and the idle
control valve, and completely coated the spark plugs so causing the
severe misfire. After all his work draining the oil, cleaning the plugs
and sorting out the idle valve she runs as sweet as a nut, and pulls
like a train. Big brutal old school power, not much off the line but
absolutely loads when you put your foot down. And the noise is
fantastic. Best of all, he valued the car at two and a half grand. Not
bad for 150 quid.
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Tetleysmooth ![]() Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-February-2005 Location: Rainham, Essex Status: Offline Points: 236 |
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Bloody good news, mate. Aint it great when that happens!!
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