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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-December-2005 at 03:46

I run 36Psi on the front and 34Psi on the rear at the mo, on 225/45 17". I haven't dented the rims (a depressingly easy task over here!) since I put them on 20,000 miles ago, and it strikes a reasonable grip/ride compromise. I've always ran around 36psi on low-pros without an issue.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-December-2005 at 05:03
Originally posted by T.J. T.J. wrote:

Just enjoy the slippiness,kick the tail out on roundabouts, and be wide everywhere else is my advice

very true

i really do think that 3s are very well balanced in the way that you can feel a slide coming on and i seem to find them very easy to control

i allways turn my tc off ;the reason being is that i find it a more rewarding driving experiance

when we get the snow its allways better to turn the tc off because if you keep it on ;it just cuts out all power to the wheels and you just end up getting no were fast

just my 2 pennys worth

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-December-2005 at 05:07
Don't worry, we're catching you up.  Our roads are getting into a shocking state over here.  The problem is that so many roads now need ripping up and doing properly that it can't be done. 

That's strange, I always thought that you put more air in the rear than the front.  Mine are 225 40 18 on the front and 255 35 18 on the rear.  I will have to keep adjusting I think.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-December-2005 at 05:40

I put a bit more into the front cos:

1. It improves the steering response a smidge

2. More weight over the front (I know BMW are supposedly 50:50 but I think it applies to 316i's, not 328/330s somehow)

3.the impact is always bigger on the front - by the time it gets to the rear there always feels like there is an element of absorption already done by the front suspension/tyre and subsequent body movement. there is some technical support for this that I read before, but it fell out of my head soon after I put it in!  Something to do with phasing. That's why there is less suspension travel in the rear too.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-December-2005 at 06:55

point 1. agreed- every car I have had I have run 1 psi under figures and definately makes a difference!

point 2. you'd be surprised - 316/8 are iron blocked - sixes are ally, not much difference in the balance, especially with the batter in the boot on sixes.

point 3. anything you say TJ...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-December-2005 at 06:59

Re: point 3 ~  ok ok I'll do some digging to try support my notion!

it would be interesting (re: point 2) to get them on a weighbridge to suss weight distribution out, wouldn't it?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-December-2005 at 07:08

yeah, I've been onto a mate who owns the race team I used to work for as he has corner weight scales.

don't know anyone with a 318 though.... 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-December-2005 at 11:26
I reckon the alloy 6s are still heavier than the iron 4s as the front tyres look a lot flatter than the rears at the same pressure.   All I want is a bit less spin from the rears, I'm sure the fronts are OKish, I don't like light steering anyway. 

I won't be happy if I've broken something or knocked it out of alignment already!  I'm beginning to wonder if the E46 is sturdy enough for me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-December-2005 at 09:55

Come to think of it i put all my preassures at 30 psi the last time i filled them up! Could be the problem but they were only 28 when i did it.

The book says somthing daft like 26/34!?!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-December-2005 at 15:17
26 does sound daft.  Maybe try 28 all round, sounds a little low though.  In my experience a few psi can make a lot of difference.  

I'd check out what other people with your car/wheels run on.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-December-2005 at 13:28
I've done 28 front and 36 rear and it's made a noticable difference but it is still very unstable :( Bushes might be shot all round??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-December-2005 at 06:01

In terms of suspension, if you soften the front relative to the rear, you get better turn-in and more propensity to oversteer. Stiffen the front relative to the rear, and more understeer is the result.

In my opinion, 36psi is more than enough for the rear - no matter what your set up, that pressure will make the rear end feel keen to slip rather than grip. 

when I bought the 328i the bushes were shot, and the car was lethal - the first night I had it I was going up a straight but very bumpy hill around 5,000rpm in 2nd and the rear stepped out so much I had to go half into the opposite lane to gather it up. I did all the bushes and it made a huge difference. The eibach lowering springs weren't quite right for me either, so I changed the whole setup to a Schnitzer rig. Now it drives like a WRX - tight but acceptable ride and great body control.

Anyway, going back on track, bushes mightn't be a bad place to start with alignment done properly afterward. Drop the pressure on the rear a smidge, and maybe further down the road 2 new tyres if you're still not happy. Anf keep us up to date with the tweaks and how they work out for you!

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