Speed check question

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Ok so yesterday night I got stopped and was told I was doing 75 in a 50 zone.
The problem is for once I was actually not speeding and was having one
of those "I will keep to the speed limit drives". I told him there is
no way I was clocked at that speed and asked if he noticed the car that
turned off infront of me. He said no I clocked you afterward. 

What I want to know is don't they have to show you proof? In any other
country I know they have to show you the speed they clocked you at and
not just say a number. Getting caught is one thing, getting accused is
a whole different thing. It is no so much the fine either but the damn
points. 

Edited by Kin Mak

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Kin Mak Members Profile Find Members Posts Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 09-April-2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland Points: 1691	Topic: Speed check question Posted: 14-April-2006 at 21:06
	Ok so yesterday night I got stopped and was told I was doing 75 in a 50 zone. The problem is for once I was actually not speeding and was having one of those "I will keep to the speed limit drives". I told him there is no way I was clocked at that speed and asked if he noticed the car that turned off infront of me. He said no I clocked you afterward. What I want to know is don't they have to show you proof? In any other country I know they have to show you the speed they clocked you at and not just say a number. Getting caught is one thing, getting accused is a whole different thing. It is no so much the fine either but the damn points. Edited by Kin Mak

narusa Members Profile Find Members Posts Really Senior Member I Joined: 02-November-2004 Points: 327	Posted: 15-April-2006 at 05:53
	Yes Kin they should show you the proof of actual speed you where doing and exact time as well.With out proves they cant do nothing.

T.J. Members Profile Find Members Posts Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 22-September-2003 Location: Cork, Ireland Points: 2332	Posted: 15-April-2006 at 05:55
	I assume he issued you with a ticket so, Kin? What a dose... I do wonder about calibration sometimes. I checked the 525 speedo against a realtime GPS for a couple of hundred miles 2 weeks ago and found when I was doing an actual 100kmh, my speedo read 106kmh. Yet I got done for going a few miles over 30mph as I approached the 60mph sign in the same car in May '03. And when I asked to see the gun, she said he colleague was using it (and had just nabbed another person) and the speed had been cleared. Not alot you can do at that stage...

Kin Mak Members Profile Find Members Posts Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 09-April-2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland Points: 1691	Posted: 15-April-2006 at 07:23
	No he did not!!!! He said I will send you a ticket in the post! Oh yes and by the time I pulled over and parked the had already nabbed another guy, so my reading was not on the gun. Edited by Kin Mak

narusa Members Profile Find Members Posts Really Senior Member I Joined: 02-November-2004 Points: 327	Posted: 15-April-2006 at 11:56
	You have a right to see the reeding from a gun if you didnt see it you can not agree with them.Thats comon things in lithuania.No proves no fines.

lukeduke Members Profile Find Members Posts Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 22-March-2006 Location: dublin Points: 1848	Posted: 15-April-2006 at 12:13
	what a bummer kin sounds a bit suspicious.. looks more like it was the car in front of you. was the car in front of you the same colour? this happened my old man before and he argued his case with the guard at the scene and let him off.. Edited by lukeduke

Robbie Bradford Members Profile Find Members Posts Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-July-2004 Location: Co. Laois, Ireland. Points: 2124	Posted: 15-April-2006 at 13:52
	Kin, As far as i know you can contest this in court. The case will probably be thrown out because it's a waste of time. Beware though, it could also lead to more points if it went against you. Send a PM to Niall.

Fey! Members Profile Find Members Posts Bavarian-Board Contributor Funs over, Scotty; beam down my clothes! Joined: 28-February-2005 Location: Galway Points: 4161	Posted: 18-April-2006 at 09:05
	Not nice, Kin. Where did it happen? And did you get the Gardas details?

topazman Members Profile Find Members Posts Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 02-April-2004 Location: Ireland Points: 2629	Posted: 18-April-2006 at 12:07
	Think you had problems Kin look at this poor fella (he got done twice) This is what happens when you disobey the law: http://livedigital.com/content/album/2310 Edited by topazman

Curley Members Profile Find Members Posts Really Senior Member I Joined: 28-February-2006 Location: Allenwood, KIldare Points: 431	Posted: 24-April-2006 at 00:23
	Just on this one, if it was the good old hair dryer, the garda has to stop you, issue you the summons/fine on the spot and also show you the speed you were doing on the back of the radar gun. If it was digital speed camera ie. hand held or gatso etc. then the summons can go out in the post as there's a mug shot of yourself, car and speed for proof. Personally I'd contest if it happens to be the radar gun on the grounds that you were contesting the speed and didn't see proof on the radar gun.... regds, thomas.

topazman Members Profile Find Members Posts Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 02-April-2004 Location: Ireland Points: 2629	Posted: 24-April-2006 at 05:17
	Radar Gun no longer in use its all laser now and you could risk that argument that you did not see the speed reading but all it shows is the speed and the distance that you were detected at it all depends on the judge at the day in court.

Curley Members Profile Find Members Posts Really Senior Member I Joined: 28-February-2006 Location: Allenwood, KIldare Points: 431	Posted: 25-April-2006 at 21:24
	Have to differ on that one, Radar is still active especially on nice rural speedtraps, e.g. road between Monasterevin to Rathangan and on the goverment front as of Jan this year they amended the 2004 road traffic act. to sort out this loop hole over guns not having a pernament record. ie. http://www.irishtrucker.com/news/2005/march/1803055.asp As from personal experience I got a summons for a court appearance, (2003) which was the first I knew of the speeding fine. I went, guard have his evidence, I asked was the guard required to stop me and show/ inform me of the speed on the radar gun ?? Judge smiled, gave out to guard, case thrown out !!! regards, thomas.