Cars v’s bikes

Hope this answers the question for you :)

F1 car - 1m23.400s (Mika Hakkinen)

Superbikes - 1m26.135s (Michael Rutter)

Most of the time it will be the car that is faster around a circuit - a bike simply has no answer to 4 massive sticky tyres and the ground effects/downforce of a formula 1 car. The only place bikes have a clear advantage is accelerating out of slowre corners.

A while back on TV there was a race between Michael Rutter on a British Superbike Honda, against Jenson Button in the BAR Honda. (There was also a powerboat in the water, but that was just pointless!) The bike was awsome off the line, but when the car got to 100mph, Jenson could apply full throttle (!) as there was enough downforce being generated to glue the car down and stop it just overwhelming the back tyres. Once hooked up, it screamed past the bike.

I would have liked to see a MotoGP bike ridden by Rossi againt the car, although I bet it would have been much the same.

 Paulo, Why would it have been the same??????????????

Michael Rutter on a Brit superBike = 180-190 Bhp, so a BAR Honda is the winner eh ?? Why not try Rossi on a 240 Bhp Yamaha over 20 laps  on say , valencia-sachenring-Monza-phillip Island- Vali over Schmi, my money is on Vali.

 the thing on tv was a set up

it was sponsored by honda , and tbh if they had used a proper f1 powerboat instead of a speedboat with a 225hp outboard on the back it would have won (say a 2000 hp lambo engined abu dabi team boat)

 its been proven that bikes cant beat f1 cars round a track but up a quarter mile strip the bike should have beaten the car easily

daddy cool wrote:   up a quarter mile strip the bike should have beaten the car easily

Why?

What is the power to weight ratio of a racing bike? It is about 1500bhp per ton for an F1 car, not to mention that the car will have better traction due to much more rubber on the road, and the fact that it doesn't have the problem of keeping it's front tyres on the ground.

Classic question.  Has 2 B cars!

just because......

okay well if it is a high performance bike and car, the car will normally take it.  like the clarkson vid where the 911 (4WD version) beat the Yamaha R1.

Straight line ability of bikes is not at question here - most 600cc+ road bikes would put up a darn good fight to (and indeed romp away from) any given four wheeled machine - road or race. But the cornering ability (and braking) of the F1 cars is just immense. The ability to corner hard and fast enough to generate several G.

Ah, see I think brands would be a car track because of the amount of corners - the car's traction allowing them to be more aggresive and carry a higher average speed all the way through - espcially coming onto the start/finish straight (can't remember the name!).

Somewhere like Thruxton might go more to the bike - the UK's fastest track apparently. A few tight corners that lead into long (if slightly bent) straights. The bike would fire itself out of the corners up to v-max super quick. Somewhere like Donny might be quite even.

Just my opinion too though - I have no facts to back that up!

I can't wait until the better weather - I have recently bought my Ninja, and sort of did a deal with my missus that I wouldn't ride it until after we get married (which is at the start of March) I have done a couple of hundred miles on it, but now it is tucked up in the garage. Her argument is that if I hedge it now, the plaster cast might not be off before the wedding photo's. Fair point I think!