More Law and Order Goodness

One thing worth remebering, and I'm not trying to back Peter up here ( god forbid lol ), we may pay more for petrol, booze, ciggys etc, but we pay far lower income taxes.

Business are also taxed lower on the "luxury" of employing people, and ours have far les finacial responsibility when it comes to laying off, redundancies, or sacking people.

Was this topic originally about ASBOs?

could you lot start a new topic called Boring Droning on Politics please!

Regarding couples getting ASBOs for arguing, blimey. Maybe Wimpey & Barretts should get ASBOs for building lousy houses with tissue paper party walls.

after 20 years of flats & semis, I have finally "made it" to detached, so no current noisy neighbours, (just chavs screaming in the park behind my house at midnight & beyond).

In my last house, a little semi, the family next door played their music very loud and they were into easy listening such as Cliff, Johhny Mathis etc. Could I have taken out an ASBO on them on the grounds of lousy taste in music?

ps - I like Johhny Matthis but not when coming thru the party wall drowning out my own music. In that house I listened to music on headphones as I am considerate towards neighbours. Now I can play what i want, when i want, as loud as I want.

Now you're talking AG. start a topic "blair is Dubbya's faithful poodle - discuss". that should get the keyboards tapping away.

did you see the excellent TV prog on SUVs in USA?

the avge fuel consump. of american cars is going UP after many years of improvement because US families are switching from 30mpg cars to 12mpg SUVs and Hummers. with these monsters spewing out carbon there is no way Dubbya can sign up to Kyoto.

the latest sexy Hummers have official avge consump of 11mpg

Make gas in the US the same price as petrol in the UK. they will all buy those dinky little Smart cars!

sounds like USA is behaving like what it is, a super power. or a playground bully.

as you say, the one issue that will be g'teed to cause uproar in the USA is raising gas prices.

the public over there seem unconcerned with vehicle derived pollution & global warming issues. Anyone who raises these issues is howled down as unamerican and unpatriotic. its daft.

there is a small but growing anti-SUV lobby in the USA (per the TV prog I saw) that is campaigning against these monsters. they are up against the corporate giants of Detroit, the Govt, and public apathy. Good luck guys!

I guess I too am guilty of driving old E23 E32 gas guzzlers, but I only drive my cars at weekends, so I can't justify taking out finance on a new car.

Plus, if I bought a new car would the factory its built in be good for the environment? and the energy & raw materials used in its construction?

perhaps classic cars are in some ways not so guilty of destroying the environment.

plenty to chew on there.

Daimler-Chrysler is now one company, so does that mean Chrysler cares about the environment, or does it mean Mercs are now built to Detroit standards.

check the peaches & lemons site for complaints against Mercs in general & US built M class SUVs in particular.

plenty of lemons awarded to current shape Mercs for lousy build, shocking repair costs, lousy dealers etc.

what has happened to Merc?

Philip wrote: what has happened to Merc?

I find their customer service quite surprising.

My Brother, and my neighbours sister had A class mercs, ( my brothers an ADI, it was his school car ), and my mate down the road has a Veto people carrier.

The level of service they all experienced was appaling, very comparable to Rover main dealers that I have used in the past.

I convinced my brother to try a min, the other bm's were too large for him, and the new 1 series ia a bit pricey.

He is so delighted and surprised at the level of customer care, and service he has recieved from a bmw dealer, he's now buying his second mini.

There were two merc dealers involved in that little story.

Peter,

What would psychologists tell us about people who drive massive SUVs by choice. if you are not a farmer or country sportsman why would you need an SUV?

Do these massive tankers boost the fragile egos of their owners?

Do SUV drivers feel impregnable on the road, in their fortress on wheels?

Hang about guys, arent we the ones who complain about all these traffic rules ?

We cant have it both ways, if they want to drive 4 x 4's and can afford to do so, then its their choice, we cant, or rather shouldnt want them banned.

spokey wrote: Peter Fenwick wrote: If everything went up to the level of the country that paid the most the cost of living for every coutry would skyrocket and no government is going to let that happen.   No government would let the cost of living skyrocket? Hmmmm, I definitely come from a different place in the space/time continuum.

So you are off the opinion that as a result of an integrated Europe every country will adjust prices up to match the highest?

 Some Interesting points !!!!!!!!!!  So--How many posters have Actually Visited the Good o'l USA.????? Not that many , otherwise YOU would know HOW-WHY the melting pot of Nationalities think. act ,and live as they do.

They have come from every corner of this planet, from all countries who FORCED them to do as told, and others with strange idea,s of democraZy--SO--- YOU gonna tell em what, How they should Think, Live, and comply with what suits todays greens and brainwashed citizens of OLD Europe--GET Real!!.The only time the USA WILL, take notice is when they SEE they are threatened--ALA 911-

I was there in 76 = Fuel crisis !!!!!!!!!! yes-- Odds and Evens, that was how they decided you could have Gas, one day odds next day --.So the locals said to us " If the price goes to 1 dollar-youre gonna see a Revolution in this USA"-- in 29 years-just think how we have paid for their comfort and choice.They Live in another World--USA-- so untill it DOES get Home to them--NOTHING Will Change.BUT--WE will Pay for that--100 times over.!!!!!!!!!!

One other point, Our TV and News services-rarely give us Info on the World of Europe--so we can see what the Belgium family-Dutch-spanish-get the picture!!! --have to put up with in their countries-pay for--told to do-ALA Slime Bliar-THEN we could judge how Good/Bad our liars are doing--So, Before telling the rest of the world how to behave-maybe WE should shut up--and hear what a less brainwashed people have to say.