BIG Brother Has arrived--NOW

livvy wrote: Nigel wrote: I'm against Livvy...I think, not that I want to frustrate the police, although I think they use the media to over egg the terrorist stuff, I'm thinking against this as I'm afraid the government will missuse it for other purposes. I think the terrorist part is the thin end of the wedge. It is help with regards to other crimes that it will play a greater part.

Yeah, like thoughtcrimes.

I don't see why no one thinks about the fatal flaw in this, change the number plate and you go undetected.  Worse still the finger of suspicion could be pointed someone elses way. 

Identity/number plate theft is on the rise..

Try and identify a criminal and he will find a way to go undetected, eventually the only thing ANPRs will be used for is keeping tabs on normal citizens. 

The government can always change their mind on the use of a piece of technology once it's in place, people shouldn't be so trusting. 

livvy wrote: You think the anomaly of two cars running around on the same plates at different ends of the country won't sound an alarm on the system quickly ? The vehicles will then be stopped & the one in the "rung" car dealt with.

And time of the driver of the "un-rung" car will be wasted.

Leni Riefenstahl wrote: I for one would be glad that the camera would show the Police that someone else is running around on my plate number & help them catch them.

I for one would prefer my privacy and also not encourage the habit of "ringing" cars. This kind of fascist monitoring of the unwashed masses is going to create an awful lot of this kind of behaviour.

I can see entire divisions of bureaucracy gone mad, where law-abiding citizens spend days every year proving that their car is their car, because Crapita have made a pig's ear of yet another government contract, and accused every motor vehicle driver of something nefarious.

This whole thing has so many bad things going for it, I can't believe people are still standing up for it.

Nigel wrote: He does have a valid point here Livvy, the press was full of stories regarding the congestion charging zone down your way, people from all over the country were getting grief, and the ownus seemed to be on the part of the plate owner, the authorities were behaving very badly.

But that is my point, ringing is here with us already & it is causing a lot of problems & wasted time for both the Police & the innocent victims of it.

Far more of the innocent victims time is currently wasted with sorting out that mess than it will be in the future.

With a network of cameras the authorities are likely to be aware of the fact that there are two cars running around on the your plate number before you start receiving all the fines.

The system will also be providing supporting evidence for you of that fact (if it isn't picked up immeadiately) through search facilities on the movements of cars. Which will mean the authorities will have far less of a "they all say that there's another car running around with my reg number" attitude, because there will be evidence to support that.

If there is a bank robber running around on your plate, is the first you want to know of it when the Police turn up to deal with you for armed robbery at your house ? Rudely awakened by an armed team perhaps ? Do you want to phone the office from the Police station & say you won't be in today because the Police are questioning you about a few armed robberies ? Or would you rather the Police already be aware that there are two cars running on that plate at opposing ends of the country & the offences aren't happening where the registered keepers (your) car is ?


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Rhys wrote: thepits wrote: Nigel wrote: This is alongside my own thoughts Spokey. I'm undecided at best, coming down on your side at worst....not that I think we actually have much of a say in it, I'm of the opinion its just going to happen. Welcome Nigel to the Realist/Fatalist's world! ..and I'm another member. ..

Spokey - stop rising to their bait - just join our club

spokey wrote: Edmund Burke wrote: "All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing."

very profound!  http://cunningrealist.blogspot.com/