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Robbie Bradford
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-July-2004 Location: Co. Laois, Ireland. Status: Offline Points: 2124 |
Topic: Points Farce Posted: 08-September-2004 at 11:19 |
Now i see, it looks alot in that case, am afraid to think what it would be in my case.......tell you what i'm not gonna think about it |
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kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 08-September-2004 at 10:01 |
on a kind of similar note: Gardaí seize speed trap detectors
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kdevitt
Really Senior Member II Joined: 27-February-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 904 |
Posted: 08-September-2004 at 06:09 |
Thats 100 quid extra for my friend as a named driver on the policy!! 30 years old and 6 years NCB.... The whole policy was only 500.
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Robbie Bradford
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-July-2004 Location: Co. Laois, Ireland. Status: Offline Points: 2124 |
Posted: 07-September-2004 at 15:43 |
First of all points are in no way good, but 100 squid is not that bad. I wonder how much extra a bloke would have to pay for same..... a much LARGER sum i would imagine. |
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kdevitt
Really Senior Member II Joined: 27-February-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 904 |
Posted: 07-September-2004 at 15:17 |
BAD NEWS!! My friend recived 2 points a fortnight ago (after being followed for 10 miles by the gardai). He's a named driver on his wifes policy with Hibernian - shes declared his impendning points when she renewed last week and her policy went up €100 as a direct result of it!
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Richie
Bavarian-Board Forum Sponsor Irish Region Joined: 04-November-2002 Location: Dublin,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2526 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 16:07 |
Phew
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Robbie Bradford
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-July-2004 Location: Co. Laois, Ireland. Status: Offline Points: 2124 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 15:39 |
Richie, just got the car running sweetly so not a chance of us parting company. I will be taking her to Mondello for BDD, i'd imagine its some buzz. Trying to rebulid funds for mods to begin, but the power and factor are enough for the moment. I think everyone should have one, finances permitting of course. A dude in work just bought a scooby WRX, wouldnt swap the M3 for two of them.
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Richie
Bavarian-Board Forum Sponsor Irish Region Joined: 04-November-2002 Location: Dublin,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2526 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 13:56 |
I agree.Speed isn't the killer-it's the stupid carry on of the driver that does it and if I'm being picky,the really old cars dont help either.I saw pics of the weekends crashes and they are all ancient cars with little or no protection in them.
Why do the young drive them?? Cos the tax and insurance is too high to come up in years and afford such luxuries as an airbag or side impact! |
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kdevitt
Really Senior Member II Joined: 27-February-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 904 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 13:50 |
Thing is - I now drive about 2500 miles a month with my job. If I sped everywhere I'd have no licence, and 99.99% of the time I'm extremely cautious on the road. This one time though I was overtaking two artic's who'd pulled onto the hard shoulder to let me past, and I decided to keep the foot down. Completely my own fault, and I don't really feel overly agrieved - was redlining it in 3rd. Am just grateful I didn't get zapped any earlier.
BUT... doing so many miles a month gives a new found appreciation of how ridiculous the whole penalty points thing is - I drive on some very dangerous roads and have never seen any sort of speed trap - they are all on the main roads, even saw a guard hiding in a bush on the Portlaois bypass - the missus can verify that one, or a gatso parked in Littleton just behind the 30mph sign, giving you no time to slow down. Some thought should go into discouraging reckless and dangerous driving - speed isn't as big a factor in accidents as the governent and gardai would have you believe. Edited by kdevitt |
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Richie
Bavarian-Board Forum Sponsor Irish Region Joined: 04-November-2002 Location: Dublin,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2526 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 13:50 |
Thats some nice forward thinking Robbie I hope you're not really thinkin of sellin the M3 are you?????
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Robbie Bradford
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-July-2004 Location: Co. Laois, Ireland. Status: Offline Points: 2124 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 13:42 |
Better still, could probably afford a new M5 and join the club again, all is not lost
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Robbie Bradford
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-July-2004 Location: Co. Laois, Ireland. Status: Offline Points: 2124 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 13:40 |
Its all a money making exercise if you ask me, God forbid anyone challenges the law makers. Technicalities obviously dont apply to "ordinary decent criminals". Sorry lads but i'm thinking of selling me BM already, gonna get me a scooby and a jcb and rip some atm's out of some buildings, then just pay me speeding fines with the cash. |
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Simatic
Senior Member II Irish Region Member Joined: 26-April-2004 Status: Offline Points: 227 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 13:17 |
That’s the part I really have a problem with… double points if you loose an appeal. I completely agree there needs to be some way to discourage people chancing their arm and blocking up the courts with senseless appeals, but this should not be by penalising the offence twice. A fine to cover the court costs would be much more appropriate and just as far as I’m concerned. |
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I miss me beemer!
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Richie
Bavarian-Board Forum Sponsor Irish Region Joined: 04-November-2002 Location: Dublin,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2526 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 12:09 |
Ye just can't fight the sysytem can you.
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kdevitt
Really Senior Member II Joined: 27-February-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 904 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 11:59 |
There are virtually no loopholes anymore - I paid up after speaking with a solicitor and the gardai.
Spoke to a guy in Cork who's firstname, surname and reg nr were all wrong on the ticket - he took it to court and got landed with 4 points! |
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Richie
Bavarian-Board Forum Sponsor Irish Region Joined: 04-November-2002 Location: Dublin,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2526 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 11:09 |
Wrong surname.....hmmmm....get off on a technicality!!! Amazing what they do to get you doin 10mph above the limit isn't it.
Considering todays news of the 10 people killed on the roads over the weekend,you think the Gardai might get off the 30mph roads where there hasn't ever been accidents and patrol the country and back roads where all the nutters are doing 70mph. Makes me puke that noone is questioning the Gardai on why they stand out in non dangerous areas shooting fish in barrells. Edited by Richie |
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IamSpartacus
Moderator Group Joined: 21-November-2002 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 3625 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 11:06 |
Doesn't sound right but if they had permission then you're probably screwed
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The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.
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kdevitt
Really Senior Member II Joined: 27-February-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 904 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 11:02 |
On the Mitchelstown - Fermoy road , guy was standing behind the wall of someones front garden - no patrol car or bike around. The guy who owned the house was out cutting his lawn and was a nosey fecker - listening to every word as I tried to weasel my way out of the points for twenty minutes.... even got my surname wrong...
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IamSpartacus
Moderator Group Joined: 21-November-2002 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 3625 |
Posted: 06-September-2004 at 02:28 |
Did you check that they had permission to be there??
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The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.
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Richie
Bavarian-Board Forum Sponsor Irish Region Joined: 04-November-2002 Location: Dublin,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2526 |
Posted: 05-September-2004 at 19:16 |
How do you mean in someones front garden Ken??????
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