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MattB106
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Posted: 15-January-2005 at 08:25 |
Well i finally got the results today... BMW will pay 50% of the parts cost. I have to pay the rest + labour etc. I think the total bill will be around £3000 and the parts probably only £550 of that (unless i misheard). Not very happy to be honest. £275 off is very marginally better than nothing
To be hones ti have no idea what i'm going to do now. Sell teh car for sod all and get another cheap 205 GTi maybe. God knows
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MattB
E36 328i Sport in silver
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Leesy
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Posted: 06-December-2004 at 08:49 |
Good luck mate. Fingers crossed. I think you'll be okay though. BMW don't want this kind of thing publicised as it goes against their rock solid image.
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MattB106
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Posted: 03-December-2004 at 09:47 |
Thank you. I will be sure to keep you informed.
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MattB
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Mac
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Posted: 03-December-2004 at 09:13 |
Hi Matt,
Well it failed the compression test, the ball is in thier court now so i suppose you'll have news early next week. Just remember that it's not the first request they've had, and you have Service History and the car's mileage isn't huge. So in comparison to others I've read about on the forums, you have as good a chance as anyone else.
Fingers Crossed, hope it goes your way
Mac.
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Hans Freikit
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Posted: 03-December-2004 at 09:11 |
Fingers firmly crossed for you, Matt
HF
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MattB106
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Posted: 03-December-2004 at 08:59 |
Well i had the compression test today and it failed on number 4 cylinder :( I didnt ask for the figures they just told me it would need a new engine (which i knew). I've asked that they put in a good will request to BMW GB so they have taken a copy of my service history. The lady ont he service desk wasnt very confident after seeing that the last service (inspection 2 3k miles ago - just befor ei bought the car) was done by an independant. Hopefully BMW are feeling generous seeing as the car has done 73k miles out of 77k through their dealers not to mention full warrenty upto summer 2004.
We shall see i guess :(
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MattB
E36 328i Sport in silver
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MattB106
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Posted: 17-November-2004 at 12:47 |
Well the technician agreed with me and it's booked in for a compression test etc on Fri 3rd December.
Just to annoy me further the ABS fault light came on on the way to the dealership. They checked it out for me for free and quoted just short of £900 for the pump plus labour. Dear god
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MattB
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MattB106
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Posted: 16-November-2004 at 12:58 |
I'd love them to tell me why it would suddenly use 10 times as much oil lol. I shall report back tomorrow.
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MattB
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Mac
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Posted: 16-November-2004 at 05:17 |
Hi Matt,
Hope you get the result you (and the rest of us) want!
Don't be fobbed off by "its not unusual for your car to use oil" They used that on me but I still had to push for a compression test.
Mac
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MattB106
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Posted: 15-November-2004 at 12:35 |
Right i have the ball rolling now. Going down to BMW tomorrow for a chat with a tehcnician, then booking it in for the compression test. I think they wanted me to have a chat ebcause they didnt want me wasting my money on a compression test that wasnt needed (although i know it is!).
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MattB
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Leesy
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Posted: 11-November-2004 at 04:12 |
EIL132, I agree with Mac and the others. When this happened to my car, there was no visible smoke, no rough idle or any other syptoms. BUT, the car was using about 2l of oil every 1k miles. The dealer performed a leakdown test and confirmed excessive bore wear. The rest is history. I now have a nice shiny new block and not a drop of oil consumption.
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E46 325 Sport Saloon
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EIL132
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Posted: 10-November-2004 at 17:51 |
Mac wrote:
Ì would agree with the above comments regarding smoke. The only symptom I had was excessive oil consumption.
The BMW dealer where I bought the car thought I was insane when I suggested that a BMW might have a manufacturing fault. They wanted an oil consumption test carried out over 3000 miles. The first thousand used 1.2 L, the second thousand 1.5L and 3L over the last 1200 miles.
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If the car is using that much oil because of blow through, then it burns. No matter what kind of car, it burns with the petrol in the cylinders therefore causing smoke. I still don't understand how it can be that bad and not have some form of symptom that every other vehicle does when it has worn bores/rings
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MattB106
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Posted: 10-November-2004 at 17:20 |
Start kissing up to the local dealer it is then!
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MattB
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Mac
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Posted: 10-November-2004 at 15:27 |
Matt,
The UK Dealers have proceedure to follow if a BMW of a certain age and criteria has a potential Bore wear problem.
A compression test and/or leak down test is performed and if the car fails and if the dealer is up to speed on his technical know how, he should know what to do. BTW, make sure the engine is cold going in, as I've noticed that the Nikasil symptoms seem to improve once the engine is warmed up. Then near normal compression is restored and you have a service manager telling you "There's nothing wrong with it sir, now please go away.."
I'd say to go with the dealer on this, BMW GB are still carrying out replacements but they're unlikely to do it for just about anyone who rings up and complains about oil consumption. Even if you do approach them, the first thing they'll advise is to have the tests carried out by one of thier Dealers. I spoke to them when I was unsuccessful with my dealer but they said that they could do nothing until a dealer submitted a request for a goodwill gesture. (Sorry to rain on your parade....)
Hope this helps,
Mac
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MattB106
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Posted: 10-November-2004 at 14:59 |
So the suggestion that i go via my local dealer? or shall i go it alone and write to BMW GB directly?
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MattB
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Mac
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Posted: 10-November-2004 at 08:44 |
I'd agree with Dergside, it looks the same as before from the top but there are shiney new parts down below..
Driving well, MPG getting a bit better all the time, and no oil issues..
Mac
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Dergside
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Posted: 10-November-2004 at 08:30 |
kbannon wrote:
actually - mac - did you get yourself a new M52 single vanos or double vanos (M52TU) in the end? |
Killian, I'd guess that the M52tu would require loom changes, etc. to run on an M52 car (for the extra gadgetry around the 2nd vanos, etc.). I doubt BMW would have done more than necessary since they were footing the bill. Wouldn't be too surprised if they re-used some of the original ancilliaries as well.
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Mac
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Posted: 10-November-2004 at 05:34 |
Ì would agree with the above comments regarding smoke. The only symptom I had was excessive oil consumption.
The BMW dealer where I bought the car thought I was insane when I suggested that a BMW might have a manufacturing fault. They wanted an oil consumption test carried out over 3000 miles. The first thousand used 1.2 L, the second thousand 1.5L and 3L over the last 1200 miles.
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Hans Freikit
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Posted: 10-November-2004 at 04:26 |
I never saw any smoke on mine: even the idle door shake didn't show up.
Most obvious symptoms on mine were a nasty smell from the exhaust after some enthusiastic driving, and the fact that I was putting a litre of oil in every five days. She's a much happier baby now...
HF
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MattB106
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Posted: 09-November-2004 at 17:54 |
Apprently seeing smoke is very rare! Odd puff of black soot can apprently be seen, and collects on the back of the car.
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MattB
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