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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-November-2004 at 04:12
EIL132, I agree with Mac and the others. When this happened to my car, there was no visible smoke, no rough idle or any other syptoms. BUT, the car was using about 2l of oil every 1k miles. The dealer performed a leakdown test and confirmed excessive bore wear. The rest is history. I now have a nice shiny new block and not a drop of oil consumption.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-November-2004 at 12:35
Right i have the ball rolling now. Going down to BMW tomorrow for a chat with a tehcnician, then booking it in for the compression test. I think they wanted me to have a chat ebcause they didnt want me wasting my money on a compression test that wasnt needed (although i know it is!).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-November-2004 at 05:17

Hi Matt,

Hope you get the result you (and the rest of us) want!

Don't be fobbed off by "its not unusual for your car to use oil" They used that on me but I still had to push for a compression test.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-November-2004 at 12:58
I'd love them to tell me why it would suddenly use 10 times as much oil lol. I shall report back tomorrow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-November-2004 at 12:47

Well the technician agreed with me and it's booked in for a compression test etc on Fri 3rd December.

Just to annoy me further the ABS fault light came on on the way to the dealership. They checked it out for me for free and quoted just short of £900 for the pump plus labour. Dear god

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 08:59

Well i had the compression test today and it failed on number 4 cylinder :( I didnt ask for the figures they just told me it would need a new engine (which i knew). I've asked that they put in a good will request to BMW GB so they have taken a copy of my service history. The lady ont he service desk wasnt very confident after seeing that the last service (inspection 2 3k miles ago - just befor ei bought the car) was done by an independant. Hopefully BMW are feeling generous seeing as the car has done 73k miles out of 77k through their dealers not to mention full warrenty upto summer 2004.

We shall see i guess :( 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 09:11

Fingers firmly crossed for you, Matt

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 09:13

Hi Matt,

Well it failed the compression test, the ball is in thier court now so i suppose you'll have news early next week. Just remember that it's not the first request they've had, and you have Service History and the car's mileage isn't huge. So in comparison to others I've read about on the forums, you have as good a chance as anyone else.

Fingers Crossed, hope it goes your way

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 09:47
Thank you. I will be sure to keep you informed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-December-2004 at 08:49
Good luck mate. Fingers crossed. I think you'll be okay though. BMW don't want this kind of thing publicised as it goes against their rock solid image.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-January-2005 at 08:25

Well i finally got the results today... BMW will pay 50% of the parts cost. I have to pay the rest + labour etc. I think the total bill will be around £3000 and the parts probably only £550 of that (unless i misheard). Not very happy to be honest. £275 off is very marginally better than nothing

To be hones ti have no idea what i'm going to do now. Sell teh car for sod all and get another cheap 205 GTi maybe. God knows

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-January-2005 at 08:54

Hi Matt,

That's disappointing news, I had been wondering if there was any outcome. There seems to be somewhat of a grey area regarding the goodwill gestures at the moment, there is a post on the 5 series forum about an owner having the same trouble, but no-one conencted to BMW wants to bite the bullet and give him an answer. Might be worth giving BMW GB a call and asking as to why only a 50% contribution when so many have had better results.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-January-2005 at 09:26
I had thought about it. Spoke to Birds of Uxebridge the other week too and they are well up for fighting my corner. They reckon they always get good results too. I'm going to have a chat with them anyway as their labour is probably slightly cheaper and i may be able to work out a way of gettting the 2.8 Hartge H3 230bhp package out of all this wasted money.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-January-2005 at 16:42

Right we have a solution. Basically i'm ignoring BMW, getting the block kit ordered via my mate who works in a dealers in Bath then getting my Indy (PC Autocare) to fit it. Also getting the big bore throttle body & manifold fund allowing.

The block kit is £550+ vat but i wont be paying that. Will be mrre than the BMW discounted one but i can get it fitted where i like.

Some VERY (if not alarming) interesting info copied form my mates post on www.e36coupe.com regarding BMW and Nikasil:

info for everyone else about Nikasil;

after BMW group supporting the Nikasil issue for almost 7 years, its now coming to an end Sad

where as before they wre quite helpful to customers ie; paying for all of it or just labour etc, over the last few years we've been seeing less and less cases as they are dying out so to speak.
But i read an report on wednesday that officially from 1st Feb 2005 (in a few weeks time) the block kits, that bmw reduced in price to help customers, will be non supported and going back to the original cost.

there are 3 kits for the effected M52 engines.
11.11.0.438.624 2000cc
11.11.0.438.625 2500cc (including 2.3 obviously)
11.11.0.438.626 2800cc

IIRC these kits include block & pistons (already assebled - which saves hours and hours on labour), head set including head gasket. sump gasket etc etc

Currently these 3 kits are priced at £560.00 + vat each
as from the 1st Feb 2005 (when bmw are dropping their support for this problem) they are going back to the revised price of £2600.00 + vat each

I'm not sure whwere this would have stoody me if i got it done through the dealer. If i booked it in mid feb would i be paying £2k extra on parts?! Be interesting if someoen in the club with BMW GB contacts could find out what's happening. Woudl be useful for the club mag maybe.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-January-2005 at 15:30

Just another update for those interested...

I'm ordering the block kit via a friend at a BMW dealers tomorrow for £509+VAT. They are delivering it fro free to a specialist in Bristol who has done the work before. They are doing me a deal of £700 all in inc oils etc. It will total a fraction under £1300 all in.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-January-2005 at 03:22

Matt,

glad to here you're getting it sorted. It's amazing that the dealers charge £2500 for the labour and a speciallist will do it for £700.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-January-2005 at 06:11

That BMW seem to be drawing a line under goodwill gestures is worrying for those of us that have nikasil cars but haven't had a probem YET.

Makes me wonder if I should just go ahead and buy a kit just in case?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-January-2005 at 17:18
Only one kit left in the UK for the 2.8 now! £560+vat. At least you coudl always sell it on if you never need it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-January-2005 at 17:19
oh and i'm getting it fitted in Bristol now. Total cost to my wallet (read credit card!) of £1300. Still that block should last me a lifetime.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-January-2005 at 16:10
So is it time to get shot of my 328 before this problem arises?
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