E34 OBC install (In German!) |
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David 87M3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 16-April-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 368 |
Topic: E34 OBC install (In German!) Posted: 30-December-2004 at 17:05 |
www.bmwe34.net
may be helpful I think its under upgrades |
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e34m5
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-June-2003 Location: Near Rugby, Warwickshire Status: Offline Points: 1344 |
Posted: 30-December-2004 at 12:24 |
The temp sensor is connected to pin 5 (blue/red/yellow wire) on the back of the OBC, the other side of the sensor needs to be earthed.
The wiring for the temp sensor is bundled with the fog light wires on my car. Did you manage to find the hole in the bumper for the sensor ?. The connector is 2 pin and yellow. Miles |
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J7 VNK
Really Senior Member I Joined: 24-May-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 450 |
Posted: 30-December-2004 at 07:06 |
ok, can't find the plug for the temp sensor looked behind the o/s front foglight but nothing there!! is the plug usually there or do you need to connect to the wiring loom? there are 4 unused plugs around the o/s headlight, none of which match the temp sensor, 3 are 2 pin and one 3 pin, are any of these the temp sender connection? if not, how do you install it? assuming there should be some wires somewhere, the OBC plug has the connections on the back so where do the wires for the temp end up? anyone know? it's too cold to drive, can't stand -37 degrees!!! |
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1999 528iA Sport Pack,Aspen Silver,17" MTech's. 1994 525i Sport, Avus Blue,SOLD (BMWCC Member) 1999 323i SE E46, Black, man, Sports Leather. My Cars "BMW's are for life, not just for Christmas" |
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J7 VNK
Really Senior Member I Joined: 24-May-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 450 |
Posted: 29-December-2004 at 12:42 |
haven't tried yet Miles, tried to sort the radio out. I'm hoping the wiring is already there as i didn't get the wiring with the probe. Might have a look in a moment.
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1999 528iA Sport Pack,Aspen Silver,17" MTech's. 1994 525i Sport, Avus Blue,SOLD (BMWCC Member) 1999 323i SE E46, Black, man, Sports Leather. My Cars "BMW's are for life, not just for Christmas" |
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e34m5
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-June-2003 Location: Near Rugby, Warwickshire Status: Offline Points: 1344 |
Posted: 29-December-2004 at 12:20 |
Glad it worked ok ...Did you manage to get the outside temp probe installed ?
Miles
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J7 VNK
Really Senior Member I Joined: 24-May-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 450 |
Posted: 29-December-2004 at 12:06 |
I've just installed to OBC, thought i'd share the experience!! Ok, i had the surround also for it (required as the clock surround isn't deep enough unless you cut it!! as told above) this involved removing the centre console to remove the old and fit the new surround, if you don't have the surround it'll be much easier to cut away the old one with a dremel etc. (or drill around inside and use a junior hacksaw blade etc..) it's not a difficult job to remove the console if you know where all the screws are, just takes an extra 30 mins to take out and put back in. Once the OBC was plugged in, nothing happened, i had to connect power to the pin 17 red/yellow/grey wire, using pin 9 red/yellow stripe wire, it then worked perfectly. so bear this in mind if it doesn't work straight away!! i went to fit the gong, only to find the gong was already installed!! so check, you may already have one!! (i should have realised, turn your lights on with ignition off and open the door, if the gong sounds, well you have one!) Apart from that it went straight forward (although now i have no radio as i didn't have the code!! :()
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1999 528iA Sport Pack,Aspen Silver,17" MTech's. 1994 525i Sport, Avus Blue,SOLD (BMWCC Member) 1999 323i SE E46, Black, man, Sports Leather. My Cars "BMW's are for life, not just for Christmas" |
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W@zzA
Senior Member II Joined: 05-February-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 178 |
Posted: 28-December-2004 at 17:13 |
I think its only the pre face lift cars you can add the loom to (different fog lamp loom) if you haven't got the plug there on later models you'll have to source a plug and wire it back to the obc! Warren |
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1995 E34 525 Sport in Daytona Violet
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jay525t
Groupie Joined: 29-September-2004 Location: milton keynes Status: Offline Points: 95 |
Posted: 25-December-2004 at 15:39 |
I am trying to locate the loom for the temp sensor if i havent got the plug which i persume is located on the o/s/f is the a plug somewhere else so i can put this loom in
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J7 VNK
Really Senior Member I Joined: 24-May-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 450 |
Posted: 24-December-2004 at 05:22 |
Thanks miles, this is good as it doesn't apply to me, i'll be putting the OBC in next week then as well as my new boot lid (which isn't the best, has some scratches ans a small scab on the leading edge but no big dent ) have a good Christmas all |
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1999 528iA Sport Pack,Aspen Silver,17" MTech's. 1994 525i Sport, Avus Blue,SOLD (BMWCC Member) 1999 323i SE E46, Black, man, Sports Leather. My Cars "BMW's are for life, not just for Christmas" |
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e34m5
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-June-2003 Location: Near Rugby, Warwickshire Status: Offline Points: 1344 |
Posted: 24-December-2004 at 05:18 |
The 518 needs a coding plug in the OBC as they use different instrument panels to other E34's.
Miles Edited by e34m5 |
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J7 VNK
Really Senior Member I Joined: 24-May-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 450 |
Posted: 24-December-2004 at 04:57 |
Sorry Norrie, jumping in a bit here, i've just got the OBC for my car last night, (with surround, indicator, gong and temp sender) but i'm not aware of the coding plug issue you're talking about? and not sure if mine's is or isn't coded, can you enlighten me? I can also get another OBC the same as mine, they're from 1991 535i SE cars. if you're interested. Regards Jon |
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1999 528iA Sport Pack,Aspen Silver,17" MTech's. 1994 525i Sport, Avus Blue,SOLD (BMWCC Member) 1999 323i SE E46, Black, man, Sports Leather. My Cars "BMW's are for life, not just for Christmas" |
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Norrie
Newbie Joined: 01-December-2004 Location: Fife Status: Offline Points: 19 |
Posted: 23-December-2004 at 14:06 |
I have just heard from Jim regarding coding plug. He has given me a price of £84 + VAT and aid that I need to take my car in to have the chip programmed. I presume a futher charge would me made for this. The coding plug , is only small eprom on a small pcb. If I knew the chip number and wiring diagram for the PCB, I could purchase one from an electronics supplier and make the plug for about a fiver. So does anyone out there have a coded OBC they would like to swap for an uncoded one? |
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ps003
Groupie Joined: 24-May-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 61 |
Posted: 16-December-2004 at 15:53 |
Good advice, I'll steer clear of the pre-93 OBC then. Paul |
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Current - 2001 E39 530i Sport Auto Previous - 1995 E34 525i SE Manual |
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e34m5
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-June-2003 Location: Near Rugby, Warwickshire Status: Offline Points: 1344 |
Posted: 16-December-2004 at 15:26 |
A couple of other people on a different forum are trying to upgrade to the full OBC and have had trouble with the earlier OBC units in the facelift cars...I would try to get hold of a unit from a 93> car if you can...
Miles |
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ps003
Groupie Joined: 24-May-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 61 |
Posted: 16-December-2004 at 15:21 |
I haven't bought one yet, going to use either ebay or a breakers yard to get the bits. From what I've read I just need to get an OBC-IV from an E34, apparently I shouldn't need to worry about coding plugs as I have the dash with check control. I did hear that its best to steer clear of the E32 OBC (even though it will work) because the fuel tank is bigger in the E32 and will give dodgy readings? Anything else to look out for? Paul |
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Current - 2001 E39 530i Sport Auto Previous - 1995 E34 525i SE Manual |
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e34m5
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-June-2003 Location: Near Rugby, Warwickshire Status: Offline Points: 1344 |
Posted: 16-December-2004 at 14:38 |
Definitely a good upgrade ....Do you have the correct OBC for your car ?
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ps003
Groupie Joined: 24-May-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 61 |
Posted: 16-December-2004 at 14:34 |
Thanks Miles. Think I'll be giving that a go in the new year then, I'm getting fed up of looking at the orange analogue clock Paul |
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Current - 2001 E39 530i Sport Auto Previous - 1995 E34 525i SE Manual |
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e34m5
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-June-2003 Location: Near Rugby, Warwickshire Status: Offline Points: 1344 |
Posted: 16-December-2004 at 14:08 |
The OBC indicator stalk plugs in to the same connector as the original .... I must admit i don't really like removing steering wheels with airbags but just make sure the battery is disconnected and wait a few minutes before removing the steering wheel..... Miles |
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ps003
Groupie Joined: 24-May-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 61 |
Posted: 16-December-2004 at 14:01 |
I know the indicator stalk with the button isn't essential but I'd like to do things properly... Does anyone know if the replacement indicator stalk needs to have wires taken directly to the OBC or does it just plug into the same connector as the non-OBC stalk? I have to say I'm a bit nervous about removing the airbag to get behind the wheel to plug in the new stalk... even with the battery disconnected I'm sure it could still go bang! Paul |
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Current - 2001 E39 530i Sport Auto Previous - 1995 E34 525i SE Manual |
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e34m5
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-June-2003 Location: Near Rugby, Warwickshire Status: Offline Points: 1344 |
Posted: 16-December-2004 at 06:43 |
If the temperature is at or below 3 Degrees C you should get the gong and the temp display in the OBC/Check Control display for a couple of seconds...You can program the OBC to only display particular settings (as you seem to know already) when you press the button on the end of the indicator stalk but it isn't possible to get it to automatically display an OBC readout when you turn the ignition on
Miles |
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