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    Posted: 30-December-2004 at 18:20
hi,i have recently bought a 633 csi,which seems to be a hallmark edition.when i bought it,the car had a severe paint defect.i work in a bodyshop so im about 2/3s through a bare metal respray.the car was repainted in the late 80s(in a different colour)and the original colour isnt that tasty!id just like to know if the car is rare or valuable enough to return it to its original colour.what is one in near condition 1 worth?thanks,patrick.
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Points: 1259 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-January-2005 at 07:10

A hallmark is certainly worth more than a standard 633 and is very rare with something between 12 and 25 made. I would guess that its worth around £6K in good condition with a regular 633 being worth about £3k in good condition, but for cars like this it's very hard to place an acurate value. I have a couple of pictures of a very nice hallmark that came to one of the events i organise. The colour sounds gastly, but in the flesh it's extreemly nice. Please feel free to PM me and pass on your e-mail adress and i will send you a couple of photos.

James
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Points: 6381 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-January-2005 at 11:22
See my comments and Hallmark photos HERE
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Points: 6381 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-January-2005 at 11:23
Originally posted by Sohlman Sohlman wrote:

....I would guess....




...and let's remember it is only a guess, so let's not get over-excited...
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Points: 707 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2005 at 12:38
Originally posted by Sohlman Sohlman wrote:

with a regular 633 being worth
about £3k in good condition

James



I very much doubt it. When you can buy a late E28
based 635CSi for £3000, why would anyone want an
wobbly old 3 speed auto or 4 speed manual thing
with E12 suspension and loads of rust repairs?
In the real world, a good one is worth £1500 and
absolutely no more. The same goes to 628's; not a
bad car but just not the proper deal.
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Points: 1948 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2005 at 13:24
Originally posted by Andy Boy Andy Boy wrote:

I very much doubt it. When you can buy a late E28 based 635CSi for £3000, why would anyone want an
wobbly old 3 speed auto or 4 speed manual thing with E12 suspension and loads of rust repairs?


I'm not going to argue about the rust, but I just had the shocks and bushes done on my "E12" 635 and the handling is stunning. I've not been able to get it to step out without being utterly stupid, the car is very neutral and handles remarkably well.
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Points: 707 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-January-2005 at 14:01
That'll be the 635CSi with uprated Bilstein
suspension and possibly an LSD, not a 633CSi......

When 635CSi's are worth so little (i.e £3000 for a
nice clean one), who would want a 633CSi?
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Points: 744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-January-2005 at 17:39

maybe not now, but in a few years' time who can say???

cheers

 



Edited by Brucey
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Points: 1259 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-January-2005 at 18:17
On a car like a six where  more and more go up to the big rust god in the sky any limited edition or rare model will be worth quite a bit when numbers decline further. When i spoke with the DVLA last year there were only 1000 sixes registered with the DVLA which is not that many when you consider how many made it into the UK market. Personally i think a hallmark in good condition with a manual box would be more interesting to me than a late model highline, but thats just me.
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Points: 707 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-January-2005 at 13:06
I would agree with you about a Hallmark being more
interesting, mainly because there are so few about.
The same goes for a 633CSi because a mint one
does look quite eyecatching these days. Trouble is
though, rare doesn't equate into £££££ which is why
they are worth so little. A chrome bumpered 635CSi
looks the same to a casual observer but is a vastly
better car. Anything BMW and seventies will be pretty
rotten by now or will have had major rust repairs. Add
to that dodgy twin servo brakes, old seventies Bosch
electrics, rattly old engines with corroded heads. A
case in point is a seventies 3 litre CS Coupe Auto -
they should be worth ten grand but a nice one will
struggle to make much more than £3500 which is
such a pity. When a Stag or MGB Roadster makes
£7000, it's criminal how little old BMW Coupes are
worth. Still, all the better for us eh??!
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Points: 707 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-January-2005 at 13:11
Originally posted by spokey spokey wrote:

   I just had the shocks and bushes
done on my "E12" 635 and the handling is stunning.
I've not been able to get it to step out without being
utterly stupid, the car is very neutral and handles
remarkably well.


Absolutely agree with you there; the Bilstein
equipped 635CSi was a much better handling car
than the E9 CSL, really crisp with the LSD. They
seemed to 'go' so much harder than the later
Motronic 635 as well even though the power output
is the same on paper. What year is yours? Manual or
Auto? With the dogleg gearbox they were just a
rocketship.
There's a very pretty looking Gold one in Total BMW
this month, a really stunning car. Sorry, but you can
keep the new 6 Series!
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Points: 1259 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-January-2005 at 13:34
I proposed an article to total that they should do a driving comparison of an early manual six (Dog leg, bilsteins, LSD) against a highline M6. My feeling is that the performance would be near identical due to the huge difference in weight.  Agree about the gold one being a nice car and it was one of the cars at the August Heckfield coupe meet in 2003. Is it me or does that car have the highline 635csi badging as i believe the correct badging for that car should have the chrome over a black backing plate.
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