Why did you buy an E36 M3?

PJSM3 wrote: David 87M3 wrote: _Tim_ wrote: PikeyM3 wrote: And as you are a newbie Andy you can't expect peopel to just instantly respect you or help you out. Trust and respect takes time. Give other people on the forum help and advice first, then you can expect them to help and advise you. Thats a joke, right? Or is this place really that far up it's own ****? Yes this forum is up its own **** and comments like "And as you are a newbie Andy you can't expect peopel to just instantly respect you or help you out. Trust and respect takes time. Give other people on the forum help and advice first, then you can expect them to help and advise you. " proves that. What a childish stupid thing to say! We are all ment to help each other out New menber or old. Unfortuantely there are some people here who think that because they have owned an M car for a few years they are experts sad but true Well I don't know PikeyM3 from Adam but I suspect his post was a reaction to the question as to whether anyone on this forum owned an M3, had cool looking wheels, subwoofer etc,............. I'm sure most people will gladly give any help they can on this forum but if they don't know, well, they don't know.

I don't visit the M-power forum very often as I don't have an M car. I normally spend most time on the 3 series tech forum and I have to say that as long as I can help I answer anyone's questions no matter how long they have been using the forum. To imply that people need to spend time earning respect first is a bit strange, after many newbie's are beginners with not much knowledge. How can they be expected to answer other people questions first before they will be helped. It sounds a little bit like if you can't help us we won't help you. Mind saying all that the topic starters comments have been a bit on the cheeky/provacative side so in that context Pikey's response makes more sense. 

DAWIEM3 wrote: I own two E30 M3`s and one E36 M3 evo. I have had the EVO for 2 years now and just simply hate it. I don`t read posts on forums about them, as I have no intrest in E36`s. It only gets washed when the wife has nagged for weeks. It is just like having a Ford focus on the drive, common as terraced houses.   Arrogant, maybe.

This comment just sums up the impression that several of the E30 M3 owners who use this forum give. A severe distaste for the E36 M3 and anyone who owns one. Why not read the E36 posts? after all owning one you might be able to help someone, or are E36 owners so abhorant that you wouldn't want too? There have been posts about which is best that have just sounded like an excuse to tell the E36 owners how much better you car is than theirs and requests from the E30 owner's to have their own forum. I just don't get it.

I don't know whether it's intentional or not but some of you come accross as snobs who look down on anyone who doesn't own an E30 M3.

DawieM3, if I had my way i'd make you drive a Ford Focus for 10 years then you might appreciate being able to own an E36 M3

Oh and non of this means I don't like the original M3, far from it, I had posters of them on my walls when I was little.

 

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Andy,

I own two E30 M3`s and one E36 M3 evo. I have had the EVO for 2
years now and just simply hate it. I don`t read posts on forums
about them, as I have no intrest in E36`s. It only gets washed when
the wife has nagged for weeks. It is just like having a Ford focus on
the drive, common as terraced houses.�

The only reason why I have kept it because in a moment of insane
madness,�I promised my wife I would buy her one, and as a man of
my word I did.� Its gets is regular servicing and service history is up
to date, but I won`t lift a spanner to it. On the other hand, I service
my E30`s every 5000 KMs,�they get washed weekly, covers goes
straight back on when finished., and no they are not garage queens
either.

My�E30 M3`s, would never sell either of them. Arrogant, maybe.[/
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�No, just spoilt by the Greatest Touring Car ever raced.

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You say you don't read posts on E36's - so why did you click on this
one?

what Houlbt said!!!!!

I own an E30 M3 and do not look down on E36 M3's no way � I drove many of them (coupe, saloons, evo, non evo, conv etc)  they are totally great cars.  Just like the E30 M3 they are the best in their class/better than their competitors.  An E36 M3's competitors being an Audi A4 S4 Bi-turbo, Merc C36/43 etc.  And that�s all it has to do - be the best car in its class.  An E30 M3 is a different car in a different era - an E36 is better than an E30 in terms of straighline performance, comfort, space and all that but the E30 is a better than the E36 in terms of handling/steering/delicacy etc.  Just like a Clio 172 would be faster, more roomy etc than a 205 1.9 GTi.  They are just different � I wouldn�t say a 205 Gti is better than a 172 or vice versa � just different & incomparable.  I wonder do Merc 2.5 16V drivers and C36 drivers have the same argument/discussions as people on this forum?  I suspect not ;)

 

One thing I do dislike about E36 M3's is nothing to do with the car but where I live I see young 18yr olds driving/�diffing� them without insurance etc and that annoys the hell outta me!  Whereas I have my E30 fully legal taxed, insured and all that crap yet I'm the one who get caught for minor traffic offences and get points etc whereas these yobos get away with it.  Grrrrrr  Nothing to do with an E36 M3 btw just some owners ;-)

Peter Fenwick wrote: DAWIEM3 wrote: I own two E30 M3`s and one E36 M3 evo. I have had the EVO for 2 years now and just simply hate it. I don`t read posts on forums about them, as I have no intrest in E36`s. It only gets washed when the wife has nagged for weeks. It is just like having a Ford focus on the drive, common as terraced houses.� �Arrogant, maybe. This comment just sums up the impression that several of the E30 M3 owners who use this forum give. A severe distaste for the E36 M3 and anyone who owns one. Why not read the E36 posts? after all owning one you might be able to help someone, or are E36 owners so abhorant that you wouldn't want too? There have been posts about which is best that have just sounded like an excuse to tell the E36 owners how much better you car is than theirs and requests�from�the E30 owner's to�have their own forum. I just don't get it. I don't know whether it's intentional or not but some of you come accross as snobs who look down on anyone who doesn't own an E30 M3. DawieM3, if I had my way i'd make you drive a Ford Focus for 10 years then you might appreciate being able to own an E36 M3 Oh and non of this means I don't like the original M3, far from it, I had posters of them on my walls when I was little. �

Peter, you forgot the 3L vs Evo snobbery though it isnt as rife here as elsewhere.

DAWIEM3.......next time try sitting on the right when you drive the E36 M3..........

Well, this is certainly a nice lively debate
Never driven an M car yet, got close to buying an M5, but it got snaffled under my nose. Hey ho.

Had 2 E30's, a 316 coup�, and a 320i auto. loved em both despite their faults.
Got an E36 now, but couldn't shake the E30 thing (ti rear end runing gear based on an E30 )

So if you are in doubt what to go for if you cant make up your mind between an E30 or E36, then get an E36 compact , shove an M3 engine in it and it should go like a rocket (ti's weigh less than saloon)

<puts flack jacket on, and hides in nearest bunker>

I replaced my E30 M3 with an E36 Evo Saloon when my wife got an SLK. We needed something slightly more practical as an alternative to the SLK.

I really loved my E30 and every so often I look around to see if I can obtain another E30 to cherish.

I used to do all my own work on the E30. The E36 has an extended BMW warranty, so in the interests of preserving this BMW do all the servicing - though I often have to take printouts from the forum to them when I am describing something I want repaired....

The E36 is brilliant for motorways and carting people, not too bad in the handling (nothing is as much fun as an E30).

Most importantly it starts everytime.

I think my Evo handles superbly,as did my last one.
Takes a while to get used to the body roll built into
the handling.I suspect E30 M3's have v. stiff susp,
as was the fashion at the time.
Iv'e driven a mate's 911(993) Carrera 2'S' and my M3 **** all over it.Evo can pull 1G in a corner too!
ps. If my silver one makes less than 300BHP I'll eat
a **** sandwich!It's blindingly quick!


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