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B 7 VP 
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Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
 Topic: 2009= National Road TOLLS-YOU Allowed ItPosted: 25-January-2005 at 13:27 |
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YOU-Read it HERE FIRST !!!! Tests Already in progress in London-WILL be Rolled out over this Once-- ""Great Country"" --to Control You & You & THEM!!!!.A Windscreen Tag(YOU pay for) will Log EVERY MILE YOU drive-YOUR BANK WILL be debited for YOUR On Road Time. YOU & YOU & THEM--just Did NOTHING but say--They cannot do that!!! THEY-Just DID.YOU did NOTHING but Talk-------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- THIS IS the Enemy Within--YOU paid For It!!!!!!!!!
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MattP
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Joined: 15-January-2005 Location: S.Wales Status: Offline Points: 47 |
Posted: 25-January-2005 at 14:12 |
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Will they reduce the amount of tax on petrol and car tax or is this another add on charge?
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spokey
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Posted: 25-January-2005 at 14:34 |
Oh, perLEEEZE! |
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Ciao,
Spokey 
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chippeduk
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ECU Tech Joined: 04-June-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 696 |
Posted: 25-January-2005 at 15:08 |
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They will raise the tax on fuel and road duty not lower it. Eventually they will have a bloke at the end of your drive who will make you bend over and give you a rogering from hell with a 14" dong before you drive your car as a sort of pre-paid punishment. |
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B 7 VP
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Posted: 25-January-2005 at 16:32 |
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Yes !! thats 3 who can see the Future--
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Rhys
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Posted: 25-January-2005 at 20:02 |
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Jayson, did I see you the other day bent over at the end of your drive?
Thought you'd dropped something, and were looking for it. Oh well I know better now.. 
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spokey
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Posted: 26-January-2005 at 02:53 |
He's just getting into shape. 
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Ciao,
Spokey
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 26-January-2005 at 04:36 |
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It doesn't sound good although I doubt it will be as bad as people think. After all they've been talking about the 5 gallon for years now and that's not happened yet. IMO I suspect that this will replace the duty on fuel, or road tax. After all if it hits the pockets of motorists too hard then the government that introduce it will loose the next election and they aren't stupid, despite the impression they give B7VP, was that film conspiricy theory about you? By 2009 half of Britiain will probably be under water anyway |
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Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel.
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spokey
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Posted: 26-January-2005 at 06:02 |
Not at first, no. But the rates will gradually creep up and up and one day, we'll be  every time we reach for the car keys.
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Ciao,
Spokey
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Daz
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Joined: 03-August-2004 Location: Dubai Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: 26-January-2005 at 06:50 |
Also the third wolrd aka Africa. South America etc. Far from innocent before we get picked on. I 'kin hate Europe with a Capital F!! Why must our generation feel guilty for doing what everybody else has done for years? edit - don't bring racism into it! Edited by kbannon |
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 26-January-2005 at 08:22 |
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The trouble is that reports about new ideas like this are normally exaggerated to make them more dramatic, so that they have more impact. Like I said before I've been reading newspaper stories about how the 5 gallon is just around the corner for years now and It hasn't happened yet. Silver beastie, the Americans may get to drive bigger engined cars but their speed limits and attitiude to speeding is much worse than ours. Same with countries like Australia. As for your comments about the third world, well they generate considerabley less pollution than developed countries like ours. The United states is responsible for 1/4 of all greenhouse gas emmisions. While I don't agree with the policy of trying to price people off the roads, or using motorists to prop up the welfare state etc, we do need to find a way to reduce the traffic on the roads. It is getting stupid. I don't even live in a city but I still spend most of my time driving in a long queue of cars doing about 30mph or less. Hopefully by the time anything like this happens there will be a decent public transport system in place so that the only time I have to use my car is when I'm just driving for the sheer pleasure of it (but maybe that is just wishful thinking) |
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Daz
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Posted: 26-January-2005 at 10:45 |
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it feels like victimisation of the driver. and it is unfair unless you live in a proper city like london/paris/sydney with other transport options like the underground good rail links etc. scotland is so remote in places it is not as simple as that. and from the political hatred pointed at drivers, driving for fun should be outlawed as it is not deemed an essential journey. look at that ridiculous case with the girl being fined for eating an apple whilst driving. they spent something like 10k on police helicopters etc.. well last time i checked there were still rapists, murderers, paedos' and drug dealers in the world, there was still a war on in Iraq and third world debt has not been abolished so why are they making such a big deal over something like that. same old story easy target. that's why. rant over I thank you.
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Daz
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Posted: 26-January-2005 at 14:47 |
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apologies for earlier rant.
must stop doing that.
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therealmccoy
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Posted: 26-January-2005 at 15:15 |
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You have the idiots in London to thank for this! They voted Ken back in! That said, in one clear voice, "We (car drivers) are stupid and will pay any toll you see fit".
When will people understand that the government are doing this for money and to con the greenys into voting for them?? James |
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Daz
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Posted: 26-January-2005 at 15:32 |
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I'm going to have to stay out of this type of topic now. it makes me too angry. but I'm still interested to see what you guys have to say.
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therealmccoy
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Posted: 27-January-2005 at 17:02 |
Me too! 
Then some idiot will say it's right! |
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Nigel
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Posted: 27-January-2005 at 17:55 |
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So who's a member of the ABD then ? I cant see anyone else doing anything at all to help the motorist, and this government ?, I cant say, I'd have to ban myself ! |
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Best Wishes
Nigel |
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 28-January-2005 at 04:44 |
What's the ABD? |
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spokey
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Posted: 28-January-2005 at 05:43 |
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Ciao,
Spokey
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MattP wrote:
Government scum. How come the US get to drive proper engined cars and we have to make to with lawn mowers? Pick on the US before you screw us even more!!