Bad gear box

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   Just a quicky, gear box realy bad to night,
strougled going up hill at 50 and excell at 40+ at half throtol. Makes
hight pichet noise under load sort of wine.have bean told coud be dert
holding valve open and oil is bean forced through witch is the wining
noise.

1. can/should I use a flush and change the mesh filter

2. were can I get cheep 3 speed ZF auto box or how much for recon

Thanks 

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bmw1066 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II GOOD OLD E23 Joined: 16-January-2005 Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton Status: Offline Points: 1095	Topic: Bad gear box Posted: 09-February-2005 at 17:46
	Just a quicky, gear box realy bad to night, strougled going up hill at 50 and excell at 40+ at half throtol. Makes hight pichet noise under load sort of wine.have bean told coud be dert holding valve open and oil is bean forced through witch is the wining noise. 1. can/should I use a flush and change the mesh filter 2. were can I get cheep 3 speed ZF auto box or how much for recon Thanks
	Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad

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Horsetan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381	Posted: 09-February-2005 at 18:04
	Is there no way of changing to the ZF 4HP22?


Hiabboy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Joined: 05-February-2005 Status: Offline Points: 325	Posted: 10-February-2005 at 03:51
	E23 R.I.P !
	Profit is more reasonable than justice.

Philip Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II E23 the forgotten 80s BMW Joined: 28-January-2005 Location: Essex Status: Offline Points: 1425	Posted: 10-February-2005 at 04:01
	Hi Mark, You could buy the silver sharknose off ebay and make one really good car out of the two. getting your box rebuilt will cost mucho �� and make you cry like a new born baby.
	Philip '86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer '85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ '86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga '86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile

Hiabboy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Joined: 05-February-2005 Status: Offline Points: 325	Posted: 10-February-2005 at 04:10
	Two wrongs don't make a right !.
	Profit is more reasonable than justice.

Philip Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II E23 the forgotten 80s BMW Joined: 28-January-2005 Location: Essex Status: Offline Points: 1425	Posted: 10-February-2005 at 04:23
	Bad boy Hiab, Get back to your cage at once, and write 500 lines "E23's are cool 80's classics"
	Philip '86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer '85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ '86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga '86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile

M3AG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II 7 series & e36 m3 registrar! (Madness) Joined: 17-October-2002 Location: Good Old Hertfordshire Status: Offline Points: 1644	Posted: 10-February-2005 at 05:24
	Mark, I agree with Philip, buy an old scrapper, and swap the boxes out. AG

bmw1066 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II GOOD OLD E23 Joined: 16-January-2005 Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton Status: Offline Points: 1095	Posted: 10-February-2005 at 15:07
	Will never be R.I.P, just could not bring my salf to do it, would rather cry like a new born baby. No were to keep a scraper. But might bid on silver one aney way, Sory Mum, gear box was better tonight. Thanks
	Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad

M3AG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II 7 series & e36 m3 registrar! (Madness) Joined: 17-October-2002 Location: Good Old Hertfordshire Status: Offline Points: 1644	Posted: 10-February-2005 at 15:50
	Mark I have been in touch with someone who may be breaking his e23! I'll keep you posted. AG

bmw1066 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II GOOD OLD E23 Joined: 16-January-2005 Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton Status: Offline Points: 1095	Posted: 11-February-2005 at 18:09
	Thanks AG, Going to put some flush in and see whats what.
	Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad

robs e23 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Joined: 28-January-2005 Location: colchester essex Status: Offline Points: 498	Posted: 12-February-2005 at 11:23
	mark, any luck with the gearbox.

bmw1066 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II GOOD OLD E23 Joined: 16-January-2005 Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton Status: Offline Points: 1095	Posted: 12-February-2005 at 12:46
	no can't find one and nowear seam to sell gearbox flush so if aney one knows wear I can get some from. Just driving her gingley at the moment. are you go to the 7 meat in Kent
	Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad

Andyboy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Banned User Joined: 04-June-2003 Status: Offline Points: 707	Posted: 12-February-2005 at 13:03
	The gearbox is *****, and a flush will not help it. It's probably a ******* valve block or more likely, a faulty forward clutch pack. Fitting a 4HP22 involves the drive plate, propshaft and gear selector but it's not a bad mod. A rebuild will be �1000. Why not just buy another running MOT'd E23? �350 should do the trick,and there are 2 or 3 about at the moment. You'll struggle to find a good 3 speed autobox now and you've admitted that the car has lots of problems and rust. Edited to remove objectionable language, please read the forum guidelines Edited by Nigel

bmw1066 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II GOOD OLD E23 Joined: 16-January-2005 Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton Status: Offline Points: 1095	Posted: 12-February-2005 at 13:30

	Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad

Philip Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II E23 the forgotten 80s BMW Joined: 28-January-2005 Location: Essex Status: Offline Points: 1425	Posted: 12-February-2005 at 14:38
	For what its worth I agree with Andyboy. there are some good Series II 735i SE & Executive E23's for sale at very low prices at the moment. look out for a B, C or D regd car as they are fully loaded. When the auto box dies its time to call it a day, and look for another car. let us know what you decide to do Mark.
	Philip '86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer '85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ '86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga '86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile

Tetleysmooth Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member II Joined: 01-February-2005 Location: Rainham, Essex Status: Offline Points: 236	Posted: 17-February-2005 at 22:26
	Try this bloke Mark http://www.mescript.com/bmw/bmw_e23_parts.htm He's got an Autobox for fifty quid, don't know if it's correct for your car though. Don't give up just yet.
	If you've got it, a lorry brought it.

robs e23 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Joined: 28-January-2005 Location: colchester essex Status: Offline Points: 498	Posted: 18-February-2005 at 04:20
	nice red e23 coming up for breaking lads

Tetleysmooth Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member II Joined: 01-February-2005 Location: Rainham, Essex Status: Offline Points: 236	Posted: 18-February-2005 at 05:23
	http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category =10374&item=4527583691&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW Or how about this one. Don't let the vultures start picking lumps off your car yet mate, we all know how you love it.
	If you've got it, a lorry brought it.

Hiabboy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Joined: 05-February-2005 Status: Offline Points: 325	Posted: 18-February-2005 at 05:35
	When BMW 1066 frags his turd i want the chrome arches , i think they'd look spectacular on my whirlpool 745i. Is it true they don't fit properly unless your arches are rotten?.
	Profit is more reasonable than justice.

Tetleysmooth Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member II Joined: 01-February-2005 Location: Rainham, Essex Status: Offline Points: 236	Posted: 18-February-2005 at 05:46
	I didn't realise what a cruel lot of so and so's you can be. The lad really loves his car, so how about helping him rather that kicking him while he's down, isn't that the essence of a club/forum?
	If you've got it, a lorry brought it.