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    Posted: 01-March-2005 at 17:31
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/0 3/01/ndrive01.xml

Drivers win back speed fines after signs chaos
By Richard Savill
(Filed: 01/03/2005)

About 2,500 convicted motorists will have their speeding fines refunded and penalty points rescinded after a driver successfully challenged a "chaotic" system of restriction signs at roadworks.

The drivers were trapped by a speed camera on the A303 at Folly Bottom, near Amesbury, between September 2003 and January last year.

The Wiltshire and Swindon Road Safety Partnership, which operated the camera, is writing to 2,467 motorists to say that it intends to refund the £60 fines - at a total cost of £148,020 - and remove the penalty points. It will also consider any claim for compensation.

The move follows a court challenge by Clair Allison, 48, a Sky Television make-up artist, who spent months taking photographs and gathering video evidence after she was caught breaking the temporary 40mph limit.

At Salisbury magistrates' court 10 days ago, Miss Allison and 27 other motorists had speeding cases dismissed after they said that signs were not displayed properly, were not out at all, or were not backed up by necessary documentation.

Miss Allison said: "I drive a very high mileage and I do my very best always to drive safely. The ticket in the post made me so angry because I knew that I had not passed a speed limit sign."

She said she had conducted her battle on behalf of "middle Englanders" and added: "We were not boy racers tearing about a housing estate."

The Crown Prosecution Service decided to offer no evidence after Barry Culshaw, for the drivers, argued that the signing was flawed.

He said yesterday: "The Crown had to concede they could not prove at any given time who put a sign up, who pulled it down and when. The police camera vehicle was doing most of its enforcement from a bridge. The site was chaotic. Sometimes cones were out and sometimes not. Sometimes there were signs and cones and sometimes nothing at all."

He added: "If this can happen at Folly Bottom, is it not happening nationwide? There is an intricate web of regulations and statute, which applies to roadworks signings. If they have not got it right, the motorist has an absolute defence."

A Highways Agency spokesman said that it would be issuing guidance to contractors to ensure that signs were in the right places. In cases where there were roadworks, contractors were being advised to video signs.

The A303 roadworks lasted until last August when a further 3,000 motorists were fined. However, the partnership said it was confident it could rebut a challenge by any of those motorists, as documents were available.

Sgt Nick Blencowe, of the partnership, said that, although the case against the motorists had collapsed, they would have been aware of the extensive roadworks and should have been more cautious.

"At least one was detected not only exceeding the temporary 40mph speed limit but also the national 70mph speed limit."

(Gotta love the defensive remark from the scamera **** at the end -- there was no 40 limit legally there, so how could anyone exceed it? And what would have happened to these 2500 people if someone hadn't taken a stand?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-March-2005 at 17:35

Yes I read this on BBCi too.

Folly Bottom.  Quite appropriate really.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-March-2005 at 07:48

At least we (currently) live in a society where citizens have right of appeal against unjust convictions................I wonder if the Home Sec would love to remove these appeals.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-March-2005 at 08:02

They should all claim for refunds of increased insurance charges (where applicable).

Now the balls rolling, it would be silly to let it stop.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-March-2005 at 08:25

LOL.......Folly Bottom. That's such a good name.

Unfortunately the signs for the temporary limit in force when I got caught a couple of weeks ago were highly visible.

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