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robs e23 
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 28-January-2005
Location: colchester essex
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 Topic: what gives me the right?
Posted: 03-March-2005 at 06:27 |
how am i in a possition to comment on the e23 when i have one but have never driven it on a road? i must refrain from any comments on this car untill its on the road running. i like the look,the shape, driving position etc. the thing that also appeals to me is the lenght of the bonnet out front, the only car i had like this was the e type jag.i like a soft ride in a car so reading other peoples comments this looks like the case.im hoping within a month to have it running on the road.the car inside cabin also seems quiet with the engine running,whats it like on the open road chaps, any wind noise etc. ill find out soon. roll on the spring. 
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Tetleysmooth
Senior Member II
Joined: 01-February-2005
Location: Rainham, Essex
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Points: 236
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 06:35 |
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You'll be happy when you drive it Rob.
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If you've got it, a lorry brought it.
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Coasting
Really Senior Member II
www.TOTALTORQUE.net
Joined: 05-February-2005
Location: Not with the two-faced bloke.
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 06:40 |
I don't have one, and never have done, but I like the shape too.
I'll be interested to hear what you think of it when it's on the road though.
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Philip
Really Senior Member II
E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
Joined: 28-January-2005
Location: Essex
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Points: 1425
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 06:45 |
A very introspective thoughtful post Rob, whats brought this on?
Andyboy once said E23's were below par on all key areas for a luxury barge like ride comfort, quietness, handling, perf, mpg etc etc.
I am able to compare my E23 with the E28 and the E32. and Series III XJ6 for that matter.
like you i like the shape and the driving position. the range of drivers seat adjustments are superb. you can tailor exactly the driving position that suits you. the XJ6 classic shape are too cramped inside for my liking.
From my E23 brief drive last sunday i found the cabin very quiet, the ride very good, seat comfort excellent, 3.5 litre perf very good, mpg better than 528i. I really enjoyed my E23 drive. That makes me an old nutter to be sure, but I couldn't care less.
the only negative thing I have to say is that my E23 seemed a bit soft at the front end and I would love to treat it to new Boge shocks. the E28 & e32 definitely corner faster, but I would have expected that from their design briefs.
also with a sunroof fitted the front seat headroom in an E23 is only just adequate for a 6 footer. this was mentioned in the contemporary roadtests.
I would like to hear other peoples E23 driving comments please.
surely these cars are not as awful as Andyboy & co say?
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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robs e23
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 28-January-2005
Location: colchester essex
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 06:56 |
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thanks philip,ill now know what to expect,the other thing that amazes me is this car has twin pot callipers on the front, serious stopping power, i dident even have these on my granada cosworth? i remember my old e28 had quiet a hard ride well it did have uprated springs and shocks. philip whats the kickdown like.
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Coasting
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 07:06 |
A Granada Cosworth! Thats brings back some memories.
I once had two Granada's. A horrid old 2.0 LX (old old shape, in a nasty white colour) was followed by a newer shape (the bubble shape) C-plated 2.0i LX in a nasty burgundy colour.
I spent £1000 on that car - trying to get it all sorted by a Ford dealer - and then I went and sold it and bought an XR2i of all things!
I remember it was a nice quiet car with quite a high spec though.
Cosworths were in very limited numbers weren't they?
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
Joined: 28-January-2005
Location: Essex
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 07:15 |
 robs e23 wrote:
thanks philip,ill now know what to expect,the other thing that amazes me is this car has twin pot callipers on the front, serious stopping power, i dident even have these on my granada cosworth? i remember my old e28 had quiet a hard ride well it did have uprated springs and shocks. philip whats the kickdown like. |
Kickdown on the ZF 4 speed box should be very crisp on both part & full throttle. the optional EH box gives you the choice of economy or sporty modes, kickdown in sporty mode being even crisper I am told.
I found the 3.2 engine to be even smoother than the 3.5, so your low mileage 3.2 should be very smooth indeed, you old smoothie Rob.
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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robs e23
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 28-January-2005
Location: colchester essex
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Points: 498
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 07:21 |
you still see loads about,i still might get another one i sold it to a guy on the isle of skye, one of the best and fastest cars ive had, faster than the e type, when you kick down it throws you into the seat up to 150mph. its the only car i could kick down at over 100mph. brilliant engines,24v quad cams. the only reason i sold it was i went to fords for some spares once, they told me they only keep spares for ten years. the parts you then order then become obsolete. like the bmw rear wheel drive great fun also has a lsd diff.
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robs e23
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 28-January-2005
Location: colchester essex
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 07:27 |
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thanks philip, its only a basic model as you know but i dont care, still has a good sunroof and leccy windows. the only thing that puzzeles me is im going to fit a cd player as it dosent have anything at the moment. the appature where you fit it looks rarther large do you have to fit a special reducing plate? rob.
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Philip
Really Senior Member II
E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
Joined: 28-January-2005
Location: Essex
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 07:33 |
the radio hole is std DIN as far as I know. All you will need is the cage that comes with the head unit.
BMW had a radio support bracket to add further support but that item is NLA. With a cage you shouldn't need an extra bracket.
your car might still have the BMW radio bracket - take a peek.
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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robs e23
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 28-January-2005
Location: colchester essex
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 07:37 |
thanks philip, all the wiring is there including the wire for the bmw leccy ariel. will let you know.
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bmw1066
Really Senior Member II
GOOD OLD E23
Joined: 16-January-2005
Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton
Status: Offline
Points: 1095
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 13:39 |
I love driving me e23  , have dun neley
300 miles this week so far. Mine is a little noisey at serton speeds
about 75 but get quiter the faster I go about 80. As for looks,
people just love it and I am always let out in to trafic. even better when the bodey work is restored, spares
prices arnt bad too new rear boot spoyler from bmw is £130 witch is ok
I think JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY THE RIDE, NOW WITH FULL AIR CON 
Edited by bmw1066
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad
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robs e23
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Joined: 28-January-2005
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 16:59 |
thanks mark for the just readable coments glad to hear your air cons working ok.  what do you ger to the gallon, rob.
Edited by robs e23
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ReturnOfThe7
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Joined: 26-February-2005
Location: Cambridgeshire
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Posted: 04-March-2005 at 07:52 |
I can honestly rate the E23 as one of the best cars I have owned, it has the lot stylish looks, comfort & sheer power from that 3.5 litre six.
Plus a bit of exclusivity (if there is such a word!), as you don't see too many of them around these days.
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robs e23
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Posted: 04-March-2005 at 10:21 |
thanks return of the 7, i will look forward to driving this now i like the idea of all the bolt on bits wings, bumper front end etc, just as well ive had to spray this bl..dy wing 4 times now?? 
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bmw1066
Really Senior Member II
GOOD OLD E23
Joined: 16-January-2005
Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton
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Posted: 04-March-2005 at 12:32 |
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MPG on the motaway is about 20-26 on the flat at 70, around town goes
down to about 19 not too bad. yous should be better as mines a 3 speed
auto.
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad
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robs e23
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 28-January-2005
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Posted: 04-March-2005 at 12:46 |
thanks mark
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bmw1066
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GOOD OLD E23
Joined: 16-January-2005
Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton
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Posted: 04-March-2005 at 14:42 |
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad
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M3AG
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7 series & e36 m3 registrar! (Madness)
Joined: 17-October-2002
Location: Good Old Hertfordshire
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Posted: 04-March-2005 at 15:10 |
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Looking good Mark! Nice to see an earlier e23.
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robs e23
Really Senior Member I
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Posted: 04-March-2005 at 16:18 |
looking really clean mark.
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what gives me the right?
