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sleeper
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Topic: over-reading estimates Posted: 11-April-2005 at 06:05 |
Hi guys,
got shot at by one of those poxy camera vans yesterday on the A303.![](smileys/Angry.gif) ![](smileys/bigcry.gif)
I think I was doing about 79mph on my speedo.
I have heard much about over-reading speedos, 10% allowance and all that stuff,
do you think my E36 speedo will be reading high?
If so what would you estimate it is out by?
anyone know what hants police are like with speeders?
Thanks.
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micky_h
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Posted: 11-April-2005 at 06:34 |
What were the cops saying you were doing? Plus whats the limit for that road?
Theres dual carraigeway near mine thats gone from 70 down to 40 in about 18 months,not that alot of people have noticed.
There is an allowance for speedo error,something like 10% max,but I'm sure thats just for manufacturers tolernences.Even if you use that as a maximum you were doing a whole 71.1 mph ![](smileys/eek.gif) Maybe the force down there are just t***s and were after easy money.
You could enquire to see if the cop equipment had been calibrated lately,if it hasn't been you could trying to get the conviction overturned saying their equipment was out of tolerence.Just an idea but it might work.
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brybusa
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Posted: 11-April-2005 at 07:06 |
Also depends on "cut off" speed there nicking people for, could be 80MPH, could be 71MPH(assuming offence commited in a 70MPH "limit")
Your speedo wont be out by much at an indicated 79MPH, certainly not by 10%
The 303 is a nightmare now isnt it?
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Posted: 11-April-2005 at 07:24 |
sleeper wrote:
I think I was doing about 79mph on my speedo.
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Bit risky in a 30 zone eh ???? LOL ![](smileys/biggrin1.gif)
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Posted: 11-April-2005 at 08:06 |
the majority of road side police vans ..have a set limit of 34mph in a 30 zone.i know this because my freind sets the machines up [dont go mad hes not the enemy ,just has part of his job calibrating machines]..but il have to ask if hes calibrated any of the motorway ones
he usally comes in my local about 5 to 6 ish ....iam off there now ..lolololol![](smileys/beerchug.gif)
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Posted: 11-April-2005 at 08:17 |
brybusa wrote:
The 303 is a nightmare now isnt it?
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first time on there in daylight for years. Won't be doing that again then!
Probably didn't help being the end of some school hols either I should think.
30 zone!?! no way! LOL
This was a 20, with speed humps too!
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Posted: 11-April-2005 at 17:12 |
??? what you lot on 70 plus 10% is 77 not 71.1 ![](smileys/beerchug.gif) to many beers for you i think.
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Posted: 11-April-2005 at 17:19 |
Most of the mobile cameras on the A303 are placed in 60 zones (the two lane bits on the Ilchester bypass are actually single carriageway, therefore 60). I have 3 points from this bit of road at a recorded 72 mph.
Most of the fixed ones are in 50 limits.
Speedos over read becuase the law says thay cannot under read. Since they aren't all exactly the same, the manufacturers have to set them over a bit to make sure that not one under reads. At an indicated 79, you were probably doing 75.
Keep us posted ,
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Posted: 11-April-2005 at 19:04 |
skull wrote:
??? what you lot on 70 plus 10% is 77 not 71.1 to many beers for you i think. |
Fair comment and accurate computation, but based on a flawed assumption!
71.1 was arrived at by reducing 79mph by 10%.
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Posted: 12-April-2005 at 07:19 |
Dergside wrote:
skull wrote:
??? what you lot on 70 plus 10% is 77 not 71.1 to many beers for you i think. |
Fair comment and accurate computation, but based on a flawed assumption!
71.1 was arrived at by reducing 79mph by 10%. |
Cheers for putting him straight mate ![](smileys/Approve.gif) thats what I was getting at.
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Posted: 12-April-2005 at 08:23 |
Well on the news this morning they were talking about speed cameras on the M4 and they were talking about nicking people for doing 79mph or over. Your speedo will read positive although maybe by not as much as 10%. I would have thought that an indicated 79mph would be less than 75, so I really wouldn't worry. At an indicated 33mph I am only doing 30, according to the speed display sign where I work anyway.
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Posted: 12-April-2005 at 11:04 |
it would not be - 10% speedo readings are about 2-4 mph out around the 100+ unless diff wheel tyres are on the car .
you could try a sat nav or speed detector to check your speedo to gps to see how accuate.
mine is spot on but the missus is 4mph out.
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Posted: 12-April-2005 at 11:52 |
We still haven't heard what the cops said you were doing.
As for readings being 2-4 mph out at a ton that might be so on your car but not all cars are the same.Recent road test of a jap car in a well known mag using GPS based test equipment.
:- true mph 70,80,90,100,110
speedo mph 76,86,97,108,119
As I said before 10% is the maximum tolerence for manufacturers.Prestige stuff like our cars will be more accurate,like a Merc (I know I said prestige but it's the closest I could find ![](smileys/biggrinbounce2.gif) ) that reads 103 while travelling at 100 (72 at 70) or the Macca F1 thats 100% accurate all the way to it's vmax.Our unlucky chap could've actually been doing 79 but hasn't stated yet.
Could be worse we could all be in Oz where theres 0 tolernce above the limit
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Posted: 12-April-2005 at 13:45 |
My Honda was spot on (less than 2% error). My BMW is about 8% fast-reading.
They usually (but not always) give you 10%. So if your speedo is reading over by a couple of percent then you might be fine. I'd worry too though....
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Posted: 13-April-2005 at 03:18 |
skull wrote:
it would not be - 10% speedo readings are about 2-4 mph out around the 100+ unless diff wheel tyres are on the car . you could try a sat nav or speed detector to check your speedo to gps to see how accuate. mine is spot on but the missus is 4mph out. |
I think it depends on what car you have. Ford speedos are notorious for over reading. My old 2 litre Sapphire would go to an indicated 135mph ![Big Smile](http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif)
Also given the number of different wheel and tyre combinations availible from the manufacturers these days, how many cars actually have 'standard' wheels?
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Posted: 13-April-2005 at 04:35 |
micky_h 'We still haven't heard what the cops said you were doing. '
Thats cos the photo hasn't dropped on the mat yet! (If its going to!)
T minus 4 days and counting - will let you know...
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Posted: 13-April-2005 at 18:22 |
just read today in the MCN it has the acpo regs in it so buy a copy and read it .
hope it doesnt drop on you mat good luck m8
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Posted: 22-April-2005 at 04:58 |
well fellow members, he says frantically grasping his wooden desk, no sign so far and I think they have until sunday to get the NIP(?) to me?!?
Please tell me its still 14 days......!
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Posted: 22-April-2005 at 05:20 |
yep 14 DAYS
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Posted: 22-April-2005 at 05:47 |
14 days providing your the registered owner/ keeper and still at the address on the log book.
Im praying for ya !
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