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    Posted: 08-May-2005 at 02:29

I've seen a couple of e30 convertibles advertised recently (in the classic dealers I hasten to add) at what I think, very strong prices. It got me thinking.....Are e30 Convertibles REALLY rising in price this much??

The following 2 cars are in the current months editions of classic magazines. What do you think?

In Classic & Sportscar, WLN Automotive have a Calypso red 320i Manual convertible, 91 'J', 53k FSH, power hood  and black leather all for £5750. 01253-304487

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In Classic Cars the well known Bocking Garage in W. Yorkshire has a Cirrus Blue 89 'F' 325i convertible, 47k from new, Blue hood, apparently stunning for an amazing £7750!!!. Not stated is if its a manual or auto. contact 01535-642085

I'd be REALLY interested to know what these are really like in the steel, so to speak, considering I paid only £2900 last year, for my 89 auto which I think is now nigh on mint and very original (ok it has 102k up but does that drop the price by 5 grand???). Can anyone in that area maybe pop along to have a look and let us know?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-May-2005 at 08:23

WLN Automotive are known for selling mint E30's at sky high prices. And from what i've heard of other people they usually are the mintest of mint and get the prices they are asking. Plus it's coming up to the summer so that normally bumps there prices up quite a bit.

I'm sure you could get a really good price for yours if you were to sell it at the right time

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-May-2005 at 10:18

My mate is opting out of his company car & I've persuaded him to go for an E30 325 auto conv instead of a wobbly Saab 900.

We have WLN sourcing him one for £6500 or less with similar miles.  He can afford to go for the best as a Saab (or tired E36 conv) would be more than double that.

"Mint" is a relative term. What's mint to one person is "spares or repair" to another. £2900 sounds a bargain which ever way you look at it & 102k is nothing.

There is a similar situation with Six series. You can get a ropey money pit for £3k, a mint one for £11k from Munich Legends or an outwardly good one for £6k which may go either way.

I took the line of least resistance & went to ML who still spent £3k on my 64k mile example bringing it up to scratch.

You pays your money . . .

At least bringing an E30 up to scratch is relatively affordable - wings aren't £520 each + fitting !!!

Hang onto yours & look after it - it could be money in the bank!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-May-2005 at 13:58

Oh, don't get me wrong, I still think e30 covertibles are one of the safest places to put your money at the moment. Lets face it, you get naff all interest on your money in the bank so you may as well enjoy it. The car market is a fickle place to invest though, there are very few undiscovered "classics" out there. It's knowing when to jump in at the right time, the e30 convertible being the prime example at the moment it seems (along, I reckon, with the series 1 XJ6's). For once I appear to have jumped at the right time!

What I was trying to establish was, "can an 89 325i convertible really be worth a touch under 8k?", which lets face it, is fair e30 M3 / e34 M5 money. I personally would probably place 8k in a nice Shadow 2 or Bentley of some description.

Any more thoughts anyone.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-May-2005 at 04:18
 Don't get excited boys! the sun is out (?) so ASKING prices are higher . Nice unmolested cars will always fetch a premium and as most e30 cabs have been 'co*ncilled' to death , nice ones are thin on the ground. A nice e30 M3 cab can be bought for less than 8 bags so i'd imagine you wouldn't want to hold your breath waiting for a victim on a 325 at the same price !.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-May-2005 at 13:45
Isnt there a cause for concern if a "nice one" that is pre-historic in age (nearly 15 yrs)  has put only 50k or 60k miles on the clock ? Besides, if viewed from behind without THE badge one could easily mistake it for a nissan sunny/datsun ! 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-May-2005 at 19:49

I hear the arguments about an M3 for the same price but I don't think it's a straight comparison.

For a start, LHD is going to rule the M3 out for the majority and a rorty 4 cylinder appeals to a different market than a silky 6. Throw an auto box into the equation & you can see they're chalk & cheese.

The fact is, if you want a 4 seat convertible with a bit of class for under £10k there's not a lot of choice.  Nearly £8k is steep mind as WLN think £6.5k sufficient for a mintish example.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-May-2005 at 01:43

I agree it's not a straight comparison but if I was going to plough 7 to 8 k in a "classic" car surely the M3 would be a safer bet purely because thats the money people expect to pay and therefore could expect to get if you sold on. Not that you should ever use the car market to invest money in but I lose enough money on my day to day 5 series, without losing dough on the summer one as well.

So a recognised e30 specialist sees mint convertibles at £6500 to £7750. Thats good news for present owners. I'd be wary about paying it though. What if you had to to re sell? You'd have to wait along time for someone else to pay it. That said, Andy, would it not be worth you and your mate popping down there to see the cirrus one? I reckon they'd be mad not to take 7k and thats only £500 more to your mate and if its as good as they say.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-May-2005 at 14:36

I agree an M3 would be more collectable but as an everyday car I would say the 325 is more useable.

All (non-collectable) cars depreciate - my own '98 Audi A6 2.4 lost £2.5k a year! The point of the 325 is that depreciation would be neglible. That was the attraction over a Saab etc.

WLN said £6250 give or take. Motorsports would be £1.5k - £2k more, an Alpina higher again. That's if you could find one.

For £6500 a "sensible" option would be a Ford Focus. Let's not go there!

As for looking at the pricey 325, my mate lives in Windsor hence the WLN scenario.  We'll see.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2005 at 06:46

325 definately more usable

But for collectors theres no choice really, either the M3 or the motorsport

They only made 700 odd convertible M3's, I guess at least 200 plus of those are in Car heaven, leaving at most 500. They're now around 6.5 - 11k. Sort of money kids can drum up, so I guess in the next few years another 200 will take a rather big hit leaving maximum of 300 odd. Now that is a major collectable item.

As for the motorsport, I dont know how many were made but I know it wasnt a lot so you're probabaly talking the same

I he wants usability, plus collectabilty (i.e hanging or or going up in value) then the motorsport has got to be the one. And I have seen decent ones for about £6k

By the way, I do have an E30 M3 convertible that I intend to hang onto for a very long time when I've it back to mint condition !!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2005 at 07:27

There were 250 Motorsports in Macau blue or Sebring grey.

Other than an M-tec body kit & "bubble" leather there wasn't much between them & a std 325. Power roof & an lsd options were standard fit too.

They fetch very strong money over standard which I'm not entirely convinced is justified. IMHO M3's are too cheap but then so are 6-series!

My own dearly beloved 635 is a Motorsport edition. Apart from M'sport only Misano Red all the other "extras" such as lsd, M-tec wheel etc were available as options.  There doesn't seem to be any price premium for them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2005 at 09:31
BTW, love that 6, absolutely beautiful
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2005 at 10:21

Thanks.  

I think it's the colour that makes it so eye catching.

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Keep thinking about a 6, and yours looks by far the nicest Ive seen, looks like I'll be Motorsport 635 hunting
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-June-2005 at 00:59

all this talk makes me wonder what my 325i convertible is actually worth as im considering selling it.

 

1988 in diamond black - genuine 55k miles with fsh (95% of which is bmw main dealers)

totally unmolested (except for a set of genuine alpina rims)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-June-2005 at 02:00

Auto or Manual and (honestley) what contition is it in? It's certainly the right spec and if its a manual and immaculate, also very desirable.

Going by the prices I've seen recently, £4500 to £5000 would seem feasable if it's really nice. I've seen them fly off drives at £3500 (and they were not perfect, just nice original) which makes them seem too cheap. I'd put (on a private sale basis) £4250ono to take £4k............if it's as good as it sounds.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-June-2005 at 09:43

its a manual.

 

i took it to an e30zone meet and everyone said how quiet the engine is. 

It drives like a new car.

No rust

Paint is good but has a few small scratches in the lacquer - nothing deep or anything tho

Leather is really good, no rips or tears

The alpina rims wud not be going with the car, itd be on a nice set of 15" bbs x-spokes instead.

 

Ive seen sh***** with 150k on the clock up for £3500, which is what made me wonder what mine is worth with the condition and the mileage etc.

 

Theres an interesting story behind the car, it was owned from new by a uk business man who had a business here in uk and another in spain.
He took the car out to spain to use there and regd it out there etc (proper uk car tho) but used to bring it back for servicing to the uk !!!! Hence the fact the mileage is so low.
Ive bought it now and for a car of its age its amazing.
HOWEVER im still a kid at heart, and i wanted one i cud modify a touch - nothing chav, just lowered, zone chip, exhaust etc - but this one is simply too good and too original to do that too.
Apart from myself its only had one owner all its life.



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Hi , new to here and a little bit confused! First let me say I am not trying to sell my car here, only ask for advice about seling it!

I have a 1988 320i Cabriolet (auto, silver). It has done 129000 miles but is stunning engine wise (full servioce history). Body wise, had new roof last year (manual) and has a couple of spots where rust starting to come through (very small).

My question is...why can't I sell it???  It has been advertised in local papers for a couple of weeks and not one single response! £2250 is my asking price and it is a lovely original example. Just wondering if anyone has advice on how / where to sell it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-June-2005 at 16:13

First of all I've seen the other post and 2250 is not too high. That is "quick sale required" money.........if advertised in the right place. Try putting it in TOTAL BMW magazine. I believe it's free even with a photo and people looking for one are more likely to look there. Also the classic mags. Theres a couple of mags out there that are purely for selling and it's free to advertise there also.

Unfortunately, yours being the 2litre and an auto may make it more difficult to sell. People really go more for the 2.5's especially in manual as they have a lot more BHP for not a lot more fuel outlay.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-June-2005 at 22:20

 

THANKS TREVOR - I KNOW ITS WORTH THE MONEY I'M ASKING - I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SELL BUT MY CHILDREN ARE BIGGER NOW AND IT'S TOO MUCH OF A SQUEEZE. I'M NOT PARTICULARLY IN A HURRY TO SELL AND AM LOATH TO LET IT GO FOR NEXT TO NOTHING!

THANKS FOR THE ADVICE,

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First of all I've seen the other post and 2250 is not too high. That is "quick sale required" money.........if advertised in the right place. Try putting it in TOTAL BMW magazine. I believe it's free even with a photo and people looking for one are more likely to look there. Also the classic mags. Theres a couple of mags out there that are purely for selling and it's free to advertise there also.

Unfortunately, yours being the 2litre and an auto may make it more difficult to sell. People really go more for the 2.5's especially in manual as they have a lot more BHP for not a lot more fuel outlay.

Cheers

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