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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2005 at 03:44
No one would have known about this event if it were not for his own employers, West Mercia Police. The officer recorded his 'familiarisation' (was he also getting familiar with the camera equipment!) journey which allegedly showed greatly excessive speed in a 30 zone (this was not long after midnight according to reports!) and a 60 zone..etc.

....his bosses viewed his adventures and decided his actions were not justified and the CPS agreed with them!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2005 at 03:45

Well said again Nigel  Clapping

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2005 at 03:48

Originally posted by Goldryder Goldryder wrote:

but I just get the feeling this officer let his adrenaline get the better of him.

Well I get the feeling that Micheal Jackson is Guilty. It doesn't make it so.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2005 at 03:49
Just out of interest, and I bet this would go unreported too, I wonder if he was put back onto basic training after this incident. He walked away from it this time, but as Nostrils rightly said, his superiors and CPS were far from impressed from his performances. So perhaps its back to the classroom with him, just as a gentle reminder not to try and be Starsky and Hutch rolled into one again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2005 at 03:55

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You want to try serving with them.

The old days of one for all and all for one have gone. After Hm forces I was shocked.

Someone, it doesn't need to be a senior rank, got hold of the rom and made a case of it, it could even have been a civvy worker, the PC should be slapped for not clearing it.

The Police force can seem so bent at times it makes you scream, but what else have we got ?, and who you going to call when your car gets nicked ?

I can imagine the response on here to " sorry sir, we couldn't get your car back as the bandits went above the speed limit"

The officer hasn't done himself, or his traffic career any favours, and will have embarrassed his mates.

But he hasn't killed or even hurt anyone, you all use this arguement against the scamera partnerships, but seem bitter when someone gets away with it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2005 at 06:08
The guy was wearing a uniform we are all sposed to look up to and respect, and to a degree they are meant to give us mere minnions a standard in which to look up to aswell. His actions were stupid and foolhardy and had anyone other than a person in uniform done it there would have been hell to pay.

People do not, and probably will not understand why, on the face of it at least, how this guy got off when others wouldn't, just by virtue of his record and his uniform.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2005 at 16:27
Originally posted by Nigel 
<P>I would be very surprised if Ian never abused his uniform, or rank to suit himself, never used an crows footed battery in a civvy peice of kit, never used HM Equipment for his own benefit, including vehicles.</P>
<P>At some point we need to support our Police, and fight the real enemy, the road safety campaigners who would have us all back to a man in front with a red flag.[/QUOTE Nigel

I would be very surprised if Ian never abused his uniform, or rank to suit himself, never used an crows footed battery in a civvy peice of kit, never used HM Equipment for his own benefit, including vehicles.

At some point we need to support our Police, and fight the real enemy, the road safety campaigners who would have us all back to a man in front with a red flag.[/QUOTE wrote:

Actually, although it's a long time ago, I don't remember doing anything comparable with this, I did get caught for speeding on my motorbike, dealt with it on my own, may have had a "but he's a good boy really" letter from my boss. I got a fine and points as I expected, and for months after was known as the office criminal. Wasn't on an aircraft squadron at the time so may have made

Actually, although it's a long time ago, I don't remember doing anything comparable with this, I did get caught for speeding on my motorbike, dealt with it on my own, may have had a "but he's a good boy really" letter from my boss. I got a fine and points as I expected, and for months after was known as the office criminal. Wasn't on an aircraft squadron at the time so may have made a difference.

I don't have a problem with this officer or the need for such familiarisation, it is obviously necessary.  I do think it should be organised properly.

The control room cameras would be able to confirm the road was clear and it was safe to proceed, and surely an observer to assess his performance, as the IAM do, would be more effective than him rating himself, or can it be done from the disc? At those speeds how can he examine the way he drove the car to see if any more practise at certain manouevers were needed.

Yes, someones life could depend on his skill. So he should have all the practise he needs until he and his superiors are happy they know the limits of the drivers and the car, but do it properly so no more officers are put in this position.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2005 at 19:29

Could be a lot worse, try running from one of these, aussie police have Holden Monaros

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2005 at 20:50

[QUOTE=Goldryder] [QUOTE=M3AG] I see the court had this to say

The court heard the roads on which Pc Milton drove were deserted at the time of the patrol and that driving conditions were good

So in theory, if I was to take my car down to a deserted motorway, in the early hours of the morning, as it was light and go at 140+ mph, I would be OK if I were caught?

 

The truth is that what you say should be right: sticking to the speed limits doesn't make roads safe: Important factors are:

1) Traffic conditions

2) Weather conditions

3) Driver's condition

Say that there's no traffic, road is dry and you are not tired. If you drive at a constant 70mph, it's almost certain that you will have an accident: get off the road, because you'll "fall asleep" on the wheel, due to the monotonous journey. (Today's cars are so quiet and efficient, that you think you don't move even at 90mph!)

Driving at a higher speed will keep you alert, via hormonic stimulation (adrenaline secretion) and you will reach your destination safely. But again, if you keep a constant high speed, say 120mph (provided you don't get caught), then again monotony factor is induced plus tiredness, because of the continuous effort of high speed driving.

So if you change your speed every so often, then this is it!

 

Now I don't understand why the fellow police officers did prosecute their colleague; they could have disregarded the recording and the matter wouldn't have reached such publicity... Stupidity? or inability to act otherwise?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2005 at 05:53

what annoys me is that colin mcrae richard burns tommi makkinen were done for speeding during a rally

WHAT DONT THEY KNOW HOW TO DRIVE??????????

one rule for them and one for us

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2005 at 05:54
Originally posted by rubberknees50 rubberknees50 wrote:

Could be a lot worse, try running from one of these, aussie police have Holden Monaros





Oh, I'd love to have a go in one of these.....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2005 at 05:57

when max power and fast car went to soutend last time the police had a ferrari and a audi tt so they have got fast cars round here

in london ive seen evos and scoobys they look normal till they turn there lights on

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2005 at 06:02
Originally posted by D12TRE D12TRE wrote:

...the police had a ferrari...



Didn't the Italian police have a Lamborghini or two at their disposal, complete with livery and flashing lights / sirens?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2005 at 06:03

probably and a couple of other super italian cars

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2005 at 06:04
Originally posted by D12TRE D12TRE wrote:

probably and a couple of other super italian cars



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2005 at 06:06

i remember when the m25 had a lot of escort cossies when they fist come outplus they tune all there cars up even though they say they are not liars 159mph out of a vectra lol!!!!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2005 at 06:11
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...159mph out of a vectra lol!!!!!!!!



Supposedly good for 170, apparently......

Wouldn't like to try it out, though

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2005 at 06:14

about two years ago i brought a astra and it had to go back for some work and i borrwed the salesmans car which was the same as the cop car it was a w reg but that was the only difference that only done 145 me and my mate tested it on the a13 so i beleive that car ihas been tampered with

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2005 at 06:27
Originally posted by D12TRE D12TRE wrote:

...i borrowed the salesmans car which was the same as the cop car....only done 145 me and my mate tested it on the a13...




Having used the A13, I came to the conclusion that 145 was the average speed of many of the drivers....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2005 at 07:41

If its so important to be able to "Hone Your Skills" ala PC Martin without breaking the law,  get yourself off to the 6 Thousand Km of Autobahn still Unrestricted--I Hone each year @ 260kph + , and sharpen up the reflexes for 3 days on the NurburgRing--- BUT-- I dont do 130kph in a 48kph zone.

Many posts have pointed out the Real problems with OUR countries Govt attitude to the Motorist, being political and revenue motivated Only. This Govt pass ill conceived laws and then the public have to accept a feeble , unsupervised, ill advised response from the Courts, CPS and Police , Headless chickens in ever decreasing circles.

If YOU dont like what you get--AND have been getting for some years, You were invited to Vote it away---BUT you didnt want it enough.

So NO good complaining about one law for them, one for you----You have 4 years to think about it.

 

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