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Points: 5301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:40
Originally posted by Andyboy Andyboy wrote:

Goldryder - I hear what you are saying and so some
extend I agree - tact is not my middle name.

E28's are fine by me. I actually ran a string of them
and part ex'd my last one, a Royal blue 518i Lux (a
great old car with 210'000 miles) for my 320d. The
main dealer didn't know what do do with it but hey,
he gave me £500 off. I had a couple of 518i's, 520i
manual and auto, one 525i, a couple of 525e's
(probably the best E28 really) and a 528i which was
just stupidly thirsty. Never had a 535i tho.

None of my E28's ever broke down except for when
the gearlinkage fell off my last 518i because the
good who fitted the clutch didn't refit the pin clip. They
all worked for a living up and down the motorway.

My first E28 (I ran seven of them in total) was a 1982
Y plate 525i in Doom Blue. I bought it from an
auction one wintry night in 1989, excited as hell
about my first E28. It had done a spaceship mileage
and had a dented wing but I fixed it up all the same. I
don't hate E28's at all - quite the opposite. Hell, the
E reg 525e is out on the drive looking at me like a
bloody abandoned puppy. As I drove him home last
night it seemed a shame to scrap it so here's an
offer - the first £66 buys it. Is that fair enough?

The thing is though, and my point, is that you can buy
a REALLY GOOD E28 for under £500. By really good
I mean a clean one that drives nicely and has no
issues. These cars are so cheap now that it's
cheaper to buy a good one than it is to try and rescue
knackered rubbish that should be scrapped.

I don't know how I compare age wise to everyone
else here - I'm 37 and consider myself 'grown out' of
the rescuing bangers phase. I've got better things to
do but am clever enough to make my car hobby pay
for itself. Some of you guys should do the same, take
a step back and ask yourselves what it is you're
trying to achieve with non running dented crappers. If
I can buy a decent tidy E28 for £66, so can you.


With all due respect Andy, if people choose to buy cheaper and older cars, who are you to critsise them or insult them for making that choice. You might not have done it but that doesn't mean you have to lay into those who do. Its not just tact, its common courtesy and sometimes you definately lack both.
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Points: 707 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:50
What I don't lack though is common sense.
Oh sure, I HAVE bough crappers and blown money
on trying to fix them. Christ, where do I start? How
about an early E28 520i auto that was known as 'The
One Speed Wonder'. I bought it for £200 about seven
years ago and thought the brakes were stuk on. In
fact, when you put it into drive, it went straight into top
gear. Hills were a problem. Found another gearbox
but on the way back from the breakers the head
gasket went.

At that point I stripped anything useful worth having
off it and got shot of it. So yes, I've been there too. But
the difference is I now know what cars are a
complete waste of time and which ones aren't. I've
been exceptionally lucky to buy an E39 for £1000 - I
won't be getting any more of those that cheap for a
while. But stuff IS out there if you set your sights high
enough.


Tired E28 £100, spend £400 to get it going.

or:

Go out and buy a good E28 for.........£400.


Hmmm, tough call.


Do you not see where I'm coming from?

How much did Philip pay for his black one anyway?
That's a pretty smart one.
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Points: 1074 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:50

Originally posted by Goldryder Goldryder wrote:

  You might not have done it but that doesn't mean you have to lay into those who do. Its not just tact, its common courtesy and sometimes you definately lack both.

With less respect, what do you mean "sometimes" he lacks both. I am pretty physically limited to how much I can do now, but buying, restoring, just working on old cars gives me pleasure.

I don't insult the people who buy a new car and have it dealer serviced, I have always preffered a more "hands on" approach, and as my father was a good, trained motor fitter and he taught me.

If you will take a cheque dated for the first of june I'll have the shadowline 525E for £66, pm me your address and it'll be in the post tomorrow!
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Points: 1074 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:54

Originally posted by Andyboy Andyboy wrote:

What I don't lack though is common sense.

Tired E28 £100, spend £400 to get it going.

or:

Go out and buy a good E28 for.........£400.


Hmmm, tough call.


Do you not see where I'm coming from?

How much did Philip pay for his black one anyway?
That's a pretty smart one.

Wher do you get your information? £105 for car, £37 for radiator, £5 for complete spare engine, £0 labour costs and £20 of leaded fuel as a treat for it to drive it back with, thats way under £400 on my calculator!



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Points: 6381 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:55
Originally posted by Andyboy Andyboy wrote:

... tact is not my middle name.


You have the perfect credentials to be a lawyer . Welcome!

Quote ....am clever enough....


...or getting too clever by half?

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Points: 5301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:56
Just try and be a little more diplomatic Andy. OK you might have done these cars til you are blue in the face but give those who love to tinker with an old car some credit. You might think it a waste of time, thats your perogative but you shouldn't behave as if they are stupid or dumb just cos they like to buy cars that you probably wouldn't touch with a 20ft bargepole.

You have your ideas and they have theirs, live and let live and you might just get on better on the site and not get warnings and be banned so much. Just engage brain before fingers and look at things from their point of view and offer advice on how to maybe do things better, but you shouldn't shoot them down for making a choice that you wouldn't.
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Points: 707 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:58

[Edited]

Andy....behave



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Points: 6381 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:02
Originally posted by Andyboy Andyboy wrote:

...The 525e is going on Ebay next week! Can you guess what the reserve is.........



Oh God, here we go....

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Originally posted by rubberknees50 rubberknees50 wrote:

Originally posted by Andyboy Andyboy wrote:

What
I don't lack though is common sense. Tired E28
£100, spend £400 to get it going. or: Go out and buy
a good E28 for.........£400. Hmmm, tough call. Do you
not see where I'm coming from? How much did
Philip pay for his black one anyway? That's a pretty
smart one.


Wher do you get your information? £105 for car,
£37 for radiator, £5 for complete spare engine, £0
labour costs and £20 of leaded fuel as a treat for it to
drive it back with, thats way under £400 on my
calculator!



More than £66 though!

Na na na na na!

Well, whatever floats your boat. But I'd rather be out
driving an E28, not lying under it. These cars are now
old enough to require weekend fettling (cambelts,
discs, etc) so guys, give yourself a head start and
BUY A NICE ONE!

I'd really love an Alpina B9 or B10 E28. Sorry, but
BMW's don't get much better than this. Peace,
Brothers.
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Points: 1074 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:03

 Ian, I've edited Andys post as well, lets not go here in open forum mate.



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Points: 6381 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:05
Originally posted by rubberknees50 rubberknees50 wrote:

... we DON'T insult others because of their choice, you do every opportunity.



Yes, but Mr. Everett is a sometime hack for "Total(led) BMW", so you should really expect this Peter Hitchens-style guff every so often

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Points: 5301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:06
Whoa..thats enough...this thread will get locked soon if you keep going Andy, just give it a rest and try and be reasonable. It won't kill you.

This thread was a valid one about a car thats known better days, there is no need for it to turn into an all out brawling session spurred on by jibes from you Andy.

Calm down.
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Points: 1074 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:09

Originally posted by Horsetan Horsetan wrote:


Yes, but Mr. Everett is a sometime hack for "Total(led) BMW", so you should really expect this Peter Hitchens-style guff every so often

That does explain a lot, I'm on the Practical Classics readers panel, however, they preach tolerance for all involved with old cars, anything anyone loves enough to run is their classic!
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Points: 5301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:11
Originally posted by rubberknees50 rubberknees50 wrote:

Originally posted by Horsetan Horsetan wrote:

Yes, but Mr. Everett is a sometime hack for "Total(led) BMW", so you should really expect this Peter Hitchens-style guff every so often


That does explain a lot, I'm on the Practical Classics readers panel, however, they preach tolerance for all involved with old cars, anything anyone loves enough to run is their classic!



Ian, I know it is hard but try not to rise to his taunting, it serves no purpose but to make him happy. Just best to ignore him completely or this and any other thread he tries this silliness on will be locked and then no-one will be able to put a point of view across.
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You have the perfect credentials to be a lawyer
. Welcome!



No Comment! 'My client wishes............'
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Originally posted by Goldryder Goldryder wrote:


Ian, I know it is hard but try not to rise to his taunting, it serves no purpose but to make him happy. Just best to ignore him completely or this and any other thread he tries this silliness on will be locked and then no-one will be able to put a point of view across.

I did try, till he made an unwarranted false personal attack, all I did was put the truth. Fair do's the moddys stopped it. We were all having a nice talk until andyboy started. Since when has "nanana" been grown up! I only tried to take him up on his offer to save a rare car, not because I wanted it, I don't!
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One more post in this style and I'll shut the thread.

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Originally posted by Nigel Nigel wrote:

One more post in this vain and I'll shut the thread.

As it appears I am part of the problem I'm of for the night, bye everyone!
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Originally posted by Andyboy Andyboy wrote:

So, if you could afford a ten grand E39 Doive, why are
you driving a 1982 Chevette? Yeah, righto Matey.

You know nothing about me. Matey.

You make assumptions according to what you read in a selection of posts on a forum, this is hardly conclusive proof now is it? Besides, who are you to say what I can and cannot drive?
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