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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-August-2005 at 18:29
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-August-2005 at 04:22

Originally posted by omega man omega man wrote:

just go out and buy some desent tyres i wish id bought desent tyres instead of buying rubber from korea or china. this is the most important thing on your car apart from your stopping power brakesorigional post edited


Rob, when's your interview with the Diplomatic Corps?


Patrick, as rob says money spent on top quality tyres is never wasted. When you add up just how much you've spent on your E23 a nice new set of tyres is the icing on the cake.


VJ is running 16" E38 rims shod with Goodyears. 2 off Eagles & 2 off NCT5 in size 225/55. no wobbles at all and excellent grip wet & dry.


the silver surfer is running 16" E31 x-spokes shod with continental sport contact.


Ian is running Nankangs 225/60/15 on his 732i and is very pleased them I hear.


My e28 is running BK Racing 16" 5 spokes shod with Korean copies of Eagles 225/55/16. I'm going to put this car on the road soon and will find out just how good these Korean tyres are.


As with all things, you pays yer money, and takes yer choice.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-August-2005 at 05:04
Originally posted by omega man omega man wrote:

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Omega, if you want to get personal, say it to my face and not in a public domain.

I am not tight with money on safety issues and have spent more money on getting my e23 right than makes economical sense with genuine BM parts only.

The whole point of a forum such as this is to share info and I asked for peoples opinions/experience on tyres - what's your problem with that?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-August-2005 at 13:42
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Originally posted by omega man omega man wrote:

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Rob, when's your interview with the Diplomatic Corps?



Think he's already working as an Entry Clearance Orificer in one of our African or Asian outposts .....



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no more personal digs or i'll lock the topic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-August-2005 at 14:57
     It's alright for omega man ,now that he works for the 'filth' he gets foc new quality tyres on his chariot every 6 months. Us mere mortels that aren't on the government payroll have to suffer and toil  just to pay for a set of dark horse stunners !
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    I'm presuming he works for the filth, why else would he drive an omega ? unless he's a council billy ?. Having met Rob he seems like a reasonable bloke, obviously his e23 illness was worrying, but omegas, there is no justifying that !.
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ETA im not getting personal, im just saying how i feel about cheap imported tyres. nice to see your car on the road after such a long time in the garage. i must say i was impressed with the paintwork and genral condition of your car. hope you have many happy miles cruising around.
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   Rob have you caught many burglars or terrorists this week? or are you still harassing speeding motorists ?
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yea taking, bribes, from speeding 540i bms on there way to gaydon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-August-2005 at 17:49

Reading the posts re tyres I couldn`t help but be boring and chuck a reply up.

My job is tyres (yawn) so I feel well placed to offer advice.

Firstly, do not detract from the manufacturers recomended tyre size, this is becouse the chassis, suspension and wheel/tyre combination have been designed together to provide optimal traction and handling abilities with the best braking performance.

If you change just one element of the design criterior you may just develope a problem

As for metric tyre, which someone mentioned, the only ones available are from Michelin and Dunlop, Michelin are on indefinate back order for all metric sizes and Dunlop only have a LIMITED number available in storage for emediate dispatch, some are available from independant wholesalers, but how old are they, I would not touch any tyre over 5 years old, even if you paid for it, not safe at all.

Then we come to Marshall tyres, I am sorry but I would not buy those things, even with your money, the shoulders are so weak they fold under on heavy cornering and the compound is very soft, it wears out quick, the tread pattern is very tight which promotes a lot of noise and they do not shift water very well due to the lack of minor sipes in the tread profile.

I run 7`s and for my money only pirelli p600p or continental ecocontact will do, they are both very, very good tyres which give good all round perfomance, and if you shop around you can get some good deals, I personaly would not put 2 tons of car on budget tyres, but that is just me I supose.

You might pay more for decent tyres but what is life worth, they are your only contact with the road, the only way of transmitting the go, and more importantly, the stop.

At the end of the day you could have a zillion horse power with the torque to match and a braking system which would stop the earth from rotating but if that little bit of rubber on the tarmac is crap, what is the rest of it worth?

Well I have said my bit and hope it is of some use

PS, I do not work for any major tyre manufacturer

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-August-2005 at 19:38
now you have from a man who knows about tyres. i agree with him totaly, it takes millions of pounds to develop a tyre like a pirelli and just some goldfish breeding, sandle wearing china man to copy the same tread pattern on a laptop. apart from your brakes tyres are your and others lifeline. dont skimp. so dont have a go at me, and dont try to pretend to be experts.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-August-2005 at 04:24
Originally posted by tdc111 tdc111 wrote:

Reading the posts re tyres I couldn`t help but be boring and chuck a reply up.


My job is tyres (yawn) so I feel well placed to offer advice.




Quick question if you can offer any advice on this please???

I ran a set of Avon ZZ3's on the company Mundano 205/55 x16 found them really crap in the wet and not much cop on dry either very squeally slippy and quite rumbly.
BUT,
I run 235/40 and 265/35 x 18 on the 750 and find them completely different. Very quiet compared to the 17" Michelin Pilots (these are 18"s remember) much softer smoother too and the grip lasts forever.
I was not too thrilled at the thought of the Avon's on the new rims and thought I would use 'em up and bin 'em but I am very impressed.
Any thoughts?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-August-2005 at 14:17

Hi Derek,

You will probably find that has a lot to do with car suspension,

The frod mundane is built as a rep mobile, driven by someone who carries his life in the boot, so the suspension is only a couple of steps up from tractor quality, it is cheaply built to carry a load.

The 7 on the other hand is built for comfort and smoothness of ride in combination with a certain amount of sporty handling so the lumpyness and to some extent the noise of the tyres would just be soaked up

The early mich pilot (the rotation tread) where very hard and very noisy, they tended to last for ever but had the grip of teflon, the mich pilot primacy and the pilot sport2 on the other hand are much improved for grip and comfort, pluse they are, so far, the only tyres to incorperate variable contact patch technology, that may sound a bit like sales bull sh1t but it aint, it works,  but that is another story

As for the ZZ3`s I have not had a lot of experience with them but being a rotational tyre the tread blocks are quite small and all basicly the same size, this will promote noise which with some types of suspension would be quite pronounced.

Assimetric and touring patterns however tend to have varying block sizes and shapes, these harmonicly cancel out the noise generated by the blocks as they hit the road surface, a bit like a pair of noise canceling headphones, thus they seem to run quieter.

Hope I havn`t bored you to sleep and that some of this helps, any other advice needed, just ask,

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-August-2005 at 14:27
Thanks for that info. I am basically delighted with the Avon tyres I always considered them 1st division rather than Premier league (i.e. Goodyear Michelin, Dunlop) but can only offer my evaluation as very good on 18" on an e32.

The Michelins I had were pilot HX on the rear and Pilot Sport 2 the ones with the deep V plus a central rib,,, on the front and agree they were very very noisy.

Neal Stocker (IUI735) had around 15,000 out his Avons so i doubt I will need to replace mine any decade soon, but when and if i ever do I'll give you a bell. You should post up in General tech too mate as i am sure the "M" sport lads would value the tech info on the tyres too
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