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Brucey
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 14:24 |
Horsey,
please do a compression test before, and any other test you can think of (dyno would be nice), same again after.
hope it goes well....
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oilman
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 11:35 |
50 to 100 ml.
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Simon
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Horsetan
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 11:34 |
oilman wrote:
I only need a very small amount to test. |
How many ml? 10ml? 50ml? 100ml?
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oilman
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 11:03 |
Anything small and clean will do so that the tests are fair.
I only need a very small amount to test.
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Horsetan
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 10:59 |
oilman wrote:
Horsetan wrote:
UPDATE:
Right, a 1-litre can has just arrived on my doormat.....
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Want to send me a spice jar full for testing just to see what it contains?
If you do then PM me and we'll organise it. |
Errm, got a spare spice jar?
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oilman
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 09:52 |
Horsetan wrote:
UPDATE:
Right, a 1-litre can has just arrived on my doormat.....
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Want to send me a spice jar full for testing just to see what it contains?
If you do then PM me and we'll organise it.
Cheers
Simon
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simonr
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 09:44 |
This sounds like it could run and run (if you excuse the pun)
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Horsetan
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 09:24 |
UPDATE:
Right, a 1-litre can has just arrived on my doormat.....
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oilman
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Posted: 13-December-2005 at 12:48 |
Hmm, not convinced.
Send me some and I'll have it chemically analysed then I'll be able to see what is actually in it.
If this product is as good as you say, I'm sure you'll have no problem obliging.
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enginerestore
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Posted: 13-December-2005 at 12:39 |
I can see the need for new body shells on a yearly basis, but you are correct in that the engines can be made to last forever. 1) if the car makers sneeze the oil companies shake in their boots. engine oil has always been made only just good enough. Car makers make a lot of money selling engines, pistons, rings etc. the oil companies make their oils only just to exceed the car makers specs. 2) Bejing Mining Co uses RESTORE in their entire Volvo Truck fleet. Beijing didn't buy any pistons liners cranks or blocks for 4 years. Volvo sent a hi-power team to find out who was making knock-off Volvo truck parts. What they found was a RESTORE Metal Treatment program in place. Beijing was rebuilding the truck engines every 500,000 km but was simply re-assembling the old engines with new rubber hoses, seals and gaskets but with the ORIGINAL pistons rings cranks and main and con rod bearings because there was nothing wrong with the parts (due to RESTORE). So you are quite correct, engine wear metal can last forever with RESTORE in the lubricant program. Yes, old engines could be recycled into the latest body shells. thks dave
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oilman
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Posted: 13-December-2005 at 11:47 |
Call me a sceptic but two things spring to mind.
1) If this stuff is so good, why haven't the oil companies cottoned on and added it to their high mileage engine oils.
2) If it does what it says on the tin we won't bother buying new cars in years to come, we'll just let the engine repair itself.
Sorry but I just don't buy it myself.
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enginerestore
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Posted: 13-December-2005 at 11:38 |
Two things happen in parallel. 1) after RESTORE is introduced the heat and pressure is reduced in the wear points so the heat attraction and burnishing effect on the RESTORE particles is reduced. 2) as miles go by the CSL particles are used up in the engine until by the next oil change there are no more left to circulate. that is why we recommend 5% RESTORE by oil volume for maintenance and up to 30% by volume for a major repair. the art is all about calculating how many particles the engine needs to completely repair itself. dave
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oilman
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Posted: 13-December-2005 at 08:40 |
How does it know when to stop "restoring"?
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Posted: 13-December-2005 at 08:28 |
Hi Brucey, OK so 120 million cans sold mainly in USA and Canada where every car has a catalytic converter, and not one catalytic converter has been compromised. thanks dave
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Brucey
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Posted: 11-December-2005 at 06:23 |
a lot of 'wonder additives' at best do no harm. So you feel pleased when your engine does not blow up, having put it in, which is, er... what it would have done anyway.....???
So the only fair test is to put it into a worn engine, measure power output, compression ratio, emissions, etc before and after.
Incidentally if these micro-particles are in the burnt oil (if it burns any, then again maybe you are not going to bother unless it does...) on a cat-equipped car I can't imagine for a moment that it will do the cat any good whatsoever- they are easily poisoned.
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Horsetan
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Posted: 10-December-2005 at 14:17 |
oilman wrote:
I've posted chemical analysis of both slick 50 and ZX1 before.
I personally would not touch either with your bargepoles but then again as I've said before, it's not my car and I only ever use proper fully synthetic oils. |
Fair comment, but at least you'll have the useful benefit of a real-life test (i.e. me) to confirm that the stuff doesn't work.
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Posted: 10-December-2005 at 13:36 |
I've posted chemical analysis of both slick 50 and ZX1 before.
I personally would not touch either with your bargepoles but then again as I've said before, it's not my car and I only ever use proper fully synthetic oils.
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Horsetan
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Posted: 10-December-2005 at 13:36 |
Brucey wrote:
-what do you expect to see when you stick this stuff in a (hopefully) perfectly decent engine??? |
God only knows, Brucey. Sure I'll let ye know if it all goes horribly wrong
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Brucey
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Posted: 10-December-2005 at 11:42 |
-what do you expect to see when you stick this stuff in a (hopefully) perfectly decent engine???
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Horsetan
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Posted: 10-December-2005 at 10:19 |
oilman wrote:
Not quiet, just reading with interest.
Personally I'm not convinced but then again it's your car not mine.
My aversion to oil addatives is well known on these boards and does not need to be restated. |
I've gone through "Slick-50" and "ZX-1" in past years, neither of which did my M30 engine any damage (now sitting on 155,000 miles). I'm game for a laugh where this type of thing is concerned, so I'll be testing this Ametech stuff mixed with the usual Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 at next oil change which is imminent....
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