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    Posted: 19-October-2005 at 08:39
Just cause it has a fbmwsh doesn't mean it hasn't had a massive smack. FBMWSH are not gospel

The registration docs are stolen with most cars now so just be careful.It's unlikely that you'll come across a stolen one. Check all the usual visual identifications and chassis nos etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-October-2005 at 08:32

Thanks Killian - I set up an appointment with Robert Harrison to view a car from a Pvt Dealer next week.

One thing though, assuming it does looks on that day and has a FBMWSH, is it safe to assume that it hasn't been written off in the past? Also, if there is a Registration Document present with the car, can I assume that its not a stolen car in the first place? Can it be forged?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-October-2005 at 05:29
There is a company here that does finance checks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-October-2005 at 05:23

Rosso, I can't say I've ever used anything like Autocheck.  I was going to get one checked a number of years ago (starship mileage Mk3 GTI 16v) but the car sold in the few days it took to try and organize the inspection. 

We don't have the equivalent of HPI here so there is no easy way of tracing insurance and finance history, making a solid and verifiable service history all the more important.  If the car has ever been a UK car then get a HPI check done (https://www.hpiecheck.com/).  It looks good in the document file when it comes time to sell too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-October-2005 at 04:04
Doesn't the AA inspection require you to take the car to an appointed garage? I know I wouldn't want the hassle of looking after this for a potential customer, if I could help it. Also I think it is about €300 or €350 (could be wrong though).
I would recommend bringing a competent BMW specialist such as Robert Harrison (see www.bmwcarclubireland.com/contacts.php) who will give it a good on site inspection for about €50.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2005 at 14:37

thanks Dergside.

A cpl of private sales there looks quite interesting. However, as previously said, private sales can be quite risky. Not being very technically minded, I plan to bring in an independent inspector ie AA autocheck. Anyone know how much do they cost? Also, anyone knows if AA Autochecks also provide vehicle history checks ie outstanding payments ? if not, how do i go about doing it ?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2005 at 13:31

Originally posted by Rosso Rosso wrote:

dont think my annual mileage would be much

In that case, buy primarily on condition, spec and history with mileage as a secondary consideration.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2005 at 09:25

Dergside - dont think my annual mileage would be much. Will be spending most, in the city. Besides, I will be living and working in a smaller town (Mullingar) for 6 months starting January before coming back, therefore I dont think it would be that high.

KBannon- oh yeah, angel eye headlamps *drool*, wide chrome grills *drool*

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I paid about €500 also but the last time I was in GSF in Dublin, I saw them for about €350.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2005 at 08:56
KB:  Where did you get a pair of Hella Angel Eyes for €350?  I paid €580!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2005 at 05:11
Alkso remember when budgeting for an pre Y2K facelift E39, that you will probably want to dress the car up with newer angel eye headlamps (~€350), rear celis lamps (~€250), clear indicators (~€40), wider grille (€70), etc.

prices are illustrative only. Some of the shiesters on here may try and pimp their wares on you also.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2005 at 05:00
Originally posted by Rosso Rosso wrote:

3 more - cheap but very high mileage

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=289513

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=300919

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=302483

automatic anyone ? worst case scenario : assuming that my auto-gearbox is FUBARed, how much would replacing it set me back by, compared to a manual ?

 

Rosso, the first of these has a very good spec and looks tidy in the photo's.  What sort of annual mileage do you do?  If its low, then don't worry too much about it being a bit leggy, assuming the history checks out.  It has a decent duration of NCT too.

The second one is wholly dependent on the build date and engine situation.  The third one has a mixed bag in spec, its got leather and climate but no multi-function wheel (and hence no cruise control) and 15" alloys.  However, it is 99 and therefore post nikasil (still check the build date though, in case it was parked in afield for a while).

Re. auto, personally its not my own preference, but they are mostly reliable and as Martin said, don't dismiss them.  They don't go wrong too often, but there have been some comments on the 5 forum that suggest that although BMW claim they are sealed for life, a service by an auto transmission specialist as you approach 6 figures might be advisable.  I've driven some 3's with the Tiptronic change and the manual change segment of the box works well if you prefer to change your own gears from time to time.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2005 at 04:29
Rosso - stick a post in the 5 forum and see how many auto boxes have failed.  I know a lot of people with auto BM's and mega mileage and no problems. The only one I ever heard of with a porblem was a 95 E34 525TDS with 180k not staying in top. Check to see when the clutch on average requires replacing on a manual and what the cost is. As for replacement auto - get a used from a breaker if you need one.

Don't get bogged down on one point, buy the car with the spec you want and take your chances as any part could go at any stage if you are unlucky, so you might aswell be driving exactly what you want rather than having something that half fits the bill and could still give problems.  That'll really ruin your day.

My approach to buying used is buy on the history and condition - forget mileage.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 20:15
Not sure Dave. Was too busy trying to get nice photos in not so good light...Kinda shadowed by the Jag hanging above our heads!
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Has that cruise?  Glad to see you're taking your own pics!
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Here she is Fey!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 20:00
Rosso - chat with Richie; I had a look at a '99 one he has, and money seems right.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 19:53

3 more - cheap but very high mileage

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=289513

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=300919

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=302483

automatic anyone ? worst case scenario : assuming that my auto-gearbox is FUBARed, how much would replacing it set me back by, compared to a manual ?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 19:02

thanks dergside. the first car does seems too good to be true. nice specs. decent price. shall make more enquiries about the car.

The 2nd car is a bit pricey at almost 13k. There is a possibility that engine as already been change. Again, shall make more enquiries.

BM Fan - I've been adviced by many against buying an auto though, been told that changing the auto gear box would be very very expensive.

 

 

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