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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 12:38
Thanks for the advice Dergside. Forgive my ignorance but what is a 'cat' ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 12:42
Rosso, sorry, catalytic converter, part of the exhaust system.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 12:57
sure kbannon. just tell me when ur free and i can pop by.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 13:35
any lunchtime and tues/thurs eves
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 18:23
Just watch the odometer also - if there is a dot (decimal point) on the RHS be very wary.  I beleie that that means that the mileage on the car does not match the mileage stored in teh key.  Not sure when that came into effect  - maybe someone else can clarify.

Personally I would recommend auto, especially in the city however it will cost more in petrol but much more relaxing which is the main point of these cars.  More attractive at resale also and will cause the price to be higher.

One note on auto's thats worth mentioning - its hard to find an auto that has been abused as the ECU prevents over reving and shift changes if the car is not in the approriate rev range hence they can be more reliable than manuals, no popping clutch, grinding gears, replacing clutch etc. The tiptronic on the auto box in fine for a bit of manual indulgence when required


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 18:37

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The first of these, the 99, looks promising.  The spec is very good, leather, full climate control, multi-function steering wheel (and m-tech wheel), cruise control, 16" alloys, etc.  All in all, a very good spec for an original Irish car and with a 99 reg should be safe as regards nikasil.  The only slight reservation is that it has had 3 owners and depends on what service history there is to support the mileage.  Its a private sale too, but if the history and a test drive were OK then it could well be a possible.  It does seem a little bit cheap (could be because its a private sale) so I'd be looking carefully for reasons why.

The second one is almost certainly a nikasil car (NCT until April, so it was registered in April '98.  Nikasil engines went in until week 10 manufacturing of 1998 (around mid March).  Doubtful if the car was built shipped and registered in a max of 6 weeks.  Its worth asking if the engine has been done (if the dealer doesn't know, get the reg and chassis numbers and ring BMW).  Since there is no picture I can't see if the reg is an original Irish or an import.  If its an import, you might need to check with BMW UK about the engine.  The spec is pretty good, but there isn't a mention of climate control, just air con (which, if true, would suggest it is an original Irish car).

Again, with no picture to see the reg, its difficult to know if its an Irish or UK car.  The spec reads well (sunroof and climate, a fairly unusual combo) but no mention of leather.  Its down to condition and history and knowing when the car was built.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 18:45

Originally posted by BM Fan BM Fan wrote:

Personally I would recommend auto, especially in the city however it will cost more in petrol but much more relaxing which is the main point of these cars.  More attractive at resale also and will cause the price to be higher.

One note on auto's thats worth mentioning - its hard to find an auto that has been abused as the ECU prevents over reving and shift changes if the car is not in the approriate rev range hence they can be more reliable than manuals, no popping clutch, grinding gears, replacing clutch etc. The tiptronic on the auto box in fine for a bit of manual indulgence when required

Good point Martin, but I'd question whether auto is the preferred choice after the second owner as BMW's are usually bought then as drivers cars.  The point about abuse is very valid, auto's tend to be specified by cruiser type drivers and therefore often lead a slightly easier life.  That was the case when I bought my e30 325i last year in the UK.  Many manuals were dropped, max powered and knackered.  The car descriptions I tended to be drawn to semed to be mostly auto's (the one I bought was completely standard and unabused, at 13 years old).

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e30 325iSE 2dr, 320i Conv, 320i 2dr, 316i.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 19:02

thanks dergside. the first car does seems too good to be true. nice specs. decent price. shall make more enquiries about the car.

The 2nd car is a bit pricey at almost 13k. There is a possibility that engine as already been change. Again, shall make more enquiries.

BM Fan - I've been adviced by many against buying an auto though, been told that changing the auto gear box would be very very expensive.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 19:53

3 more - cheap but very high mileage

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=289513

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=300919

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=302483

automatic anyone ? worst case scenario : assuming that my auto-gearbox is FUBARed, how much would replacing it set me back by, compared to a manual ?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 20:00
Rosso - chat with Richie; I had a look at a '99 one he has, and money seems right.
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Here she is Fey!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2005 at 20:11
Has that cruise?  Glad to see you're taking your own pics!
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Not sure Dave. Was too busy trying to get nice photos in not so good light...Kinda shadowed by the Jag hanging above our heads!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2005 at 04:29
Rosso - stick a post in the 5 forum and see how many auto boxes have failed.  I know a lot of people with auto BM's and mega mileage and no problems. The only one I ever heard of with a porblem was a 95 E34 525TDS with 180k not staying in top. Check to see when the clutch on average requires replacing on a manual and what the cost is. As for replacement auto - get a used from a breaker if you need one.

Don't get bogged down on one point, buy the car with the spec you want and take your chances as any part could go at any stage if you are unlucky, so you might aswell be driving exactly what you want rather than having something that half fits the bill and could still give problems.  That'll really ruin your day.

My approach to buying used is buy on the history and condition - forget mileage.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2005 at 05:00
Originally posted by Rosso Rosso wrote:

3 more - cheap but very high mileage

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=289513

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=300919

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=302483

automatic anyone ? worst case scenario : assuming that my auto-gearbox is FUBARed, how much would replacing it set me back by, compared to a manual ?

 

Rosso, the first of these has a very good spec and looks tidy in the photo's.  What sort of annual mileage do you do?  If its low, then don't worry too much about it being a bit leggy, assuming the history checks out.  It has a decent duration of NCT too.

The second one is wholly dependent on the build date and engine situation.  The third one has a mixed bag in spec, its got leather and climate but no multi-function wheel (and hence no cruise control) and 15" alloys.  However, it is 99 and therefore post nikasil (still check the build date though, in case it was parked in afield for a while).

Re. auto, personally its not my own preference, but they are mostly reliable and as Martin said, don't dismiss them.  They don't go wrong too often, but there have been some comments on the 5 forum that suggest that although BMW claim they are sealed for life, a service by an auto transmission specialist as you approach 6 figures might be advisable.  I've driven some 3's with the Tiptronic change and the manual change segment of the box works well if you prefer to change your own gears from time to time.

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Prev:
e46 328i SE Touring, 330Ci, 318Ci.
e39 523i SE.
e36 325i Coupe *2, 323i SE, 316iSE.
e30 325iSE 2dr, 320i Conv, 320i 2dr, 316i.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2005 at 05:11
Alkso remember when budgeting for an pre Y2K facelift E39, that you will probably want to dress the car up with newer angel eye headlamps (~€350), rear celis lamps (~€250), clear indicators (~€40), wider grille (€70), etc.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2005 at 08:56
KB:  Where did you get a pair of Hella Angel Eyes for €350?  I paid €580!!!
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I paid about €500 also but the last time I was in GSF in Dublin, I saw them for about €350.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2005 at 09:25

Dergside - dont think my annual mileage would be much. Will be spending most, in the city. Besides, I will be living and working in a smaller town (Mullingar) for 6 months starting January before coming back, therefore I dont think it would be that high.

KBannon- oh yeah, angel eye headlamps *drool*, wide chrome grills *drool*

sigh, decisions, decisions

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