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Really Senior Member II Joined: 21-October-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 599 |
Posted: 01-November-2005 at 08:59 |
Phone your BM dealer and ask for someone who knows e24's. Your p/no confirms you have the slightly older model. |
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phb10186
Really Senior Member I Joined: 18-April-2005 Location: North London Status: Offline Points: 331 |
Posted: 01-November-2005 at 14:51 |
does this do something with the fuel, or is it ignition???
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UKDaveJ
Really Senior Member II Joined: 18-November-2004 Location: Bromsgrove, Worcestershire Status: Offline Points: 529 |
Posted: 01-November-2005 at 18:05 |
I was kinda hoping you'd got it started now Ben!
When you've got this sorted you are going to be the man for any E24's that fail to start! Good luck, admire your persistence mate! Edited by UKDaveJ |
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My 635's.
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phb10186
Really Senior Member I Joined: 18-April-2005 Location: North London Status: Offline Points: 331 |
Posted: 01-November-2005 at 18:14 |
Problem is i'm still not near. Ivor is helping me out with an auto-electrician, but ive been so busy with work recently, the car has to take second place. I hope I can still sort it fairly soon, its been 10 weeks now..... Still aquiring knowledge, and I can identify every box on the car now, so if you dont know what something is.... ask me, and ill probably be able to tell you, unles its not on my car. But to be honest im kind of upset with the whole thing, as its been expensive and time consuming... and it still doesnt work. But YES I will get round to it when I can. |
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Drew21
Groupie Joined: 14-October-2005 Status: Offline Points: 51 |
Posted: 02-November-2005 at 04:26 |
funnily enough my 6 wouldn't start this morning!! ho hum |
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UKDaveJ
Really Senior Member II Joined: 18-November-2004 Location: Bromsgrove, Worcestershire Status: Offline Points: 529 |
Posted: 02-November-2005 at 11:55 |
SSsshhhh.....they'll hear you & all start playing up next........ |
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My 635's.
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 04-November-2005 at 18:44 |
's alright, Carlos will be ready to attack the problem towards the end of the month....
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phb10186
Really Senior Member I Joined: 18-April-2005 Location: North London Status: Offline Points: 331 |
Posted: 05-November-2005 at 14:10 |
I bought the ball bearing that attatches to the flywheel today.... its about 4 mm in diameter, and supposedly turns on the flywheel and sends info to the ECU via the 2 flywheel sensors. I cant imagine it is this causing my non-start problems, but I also cant inagine how it attatches to the flywheel... as it is so small and fiddly. Has anyone else had to replace this piece... or indeed know what im talking about as It seems such an unlikely cause, and strange piece to be fitted on to a flywheel. It looks like a small chrome ball bearing (well it is one).... Its like something that came out of a kids game, rather than something that fits on a car. |
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omega man
Groupie Joined: 05-July-2005 Status: Offline Points: 90 |
Posted: 05-November-2005 at 14:34 |
could it be your dme relay playing up
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 05-November-2005 at 14:38 |
Ah no, not again, we've been through this already! |
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Drew540i
Really Senior Member II Available from all good newsagents! Joined: 15-August-2005 Location: The Mansfield Massive Status: Offline Points: 632 |
Posted: 06-November-2005 at 08:07 |
If it's an automatic, it's nothing like a ballbearing -
rather an odd shaped bit of steel. What about the DME relay Rob? REckon it could be that you know. |
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omega man
Groupie Joined: 05-July-2005 Status: Offline Points: 90 |
Posted: 06-November-2005 at 08:16 |
drew, yes i recon, its the dme relay, just to get horsetan, going.
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omega man
Groupie Joined: 05-July-2005 Status: Offline Points: 90 |
Posted: 06-November-2005 at 08:22 |
seriously, it could be your top dead sensor as drew drop says, it needs to be checked if its fallen off. this alone would be a non starter alone.
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Drew540i
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Posted: 06-November-2005 at 12:15 |
That doesn't require 12v or a relay. |
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phb10186
Really Senior Member I Joined: 18-April-2005 Location: North London Status: Offline Points: 331 |
Posted: 06-November-2005 at 14:17 |
Can someone give me a part No for this bit of metal for the flywheel, my car is an auto... is there 1 or 2 of them on the flywheel (1 for each sensor)? |
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Drew540i
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Posted: 06-November-2005 at 18:33 |
There is no such thing - it's an integral part of the
flywheel and is not available on it's own. Have you looked under the car yet, turned the engine over and actually looked for it? It's a very obvious square lug. |
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phb10186
Really Senior Member I Joined: 18-April-2005 Location: North London Status: Offline Points: 331 |
Posted: 07-November-2005 at 15:15 |
No, there is nothing under the car, especially not anything like that.
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phb10186
Really Senior Member I Joined: 18-April-2005 Location: North London Status: Offline Points: 331 |
Posted: 13-November-2005 at 05:46 |
I will be adding to this posting once I have had an auto-electrician take a look at the car in early December...watch this space.
-Ben |
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paulo
Newbie Joined: 13-November-2005 Status: Offline Points: 4 |
Posted: 13-November-2005 at 14:21 |
Hi, I have a 635csi 1986 which had exactly the non starting problem ( cut going thru a corner). There wasn't a spark at the plugs although there was voltage at the coil and the engine turned over. I had 2 'expert auto electrical mechanics' look at it but eventually after 2 weeks i got a mobile autoelectrician to look at it and i left the keys with him, he rang me 1/2 hour later to say there was nothing wrong with the car and it started first time! I was having trouble with my battery at the time being drained but i still do not know why it decided to start again all he did was put a booster on the battery because the it was flat after many attempts to start it. |
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phb10186
Really Senior Member I Joined: 18-April-2005 Location: North London Status: Offline Points: 331 |
Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:47 |
I take it you had a duff battery, and that it wasnt turning over. If you read this thread its quite interesting how this fault has continued to defy me, and others that have looked at the car. My battery is absolutely fine, and it turns over great, fuel OK and everything else I can see is fine. Every relay, fuse and sensor is OK..... there is power to the coil, but nothing to the plugs, which I have learned might be an 'ECU non-fire' problem. Put simply; there is a part of the flywheel that may have fallen off. I havnt seen this yet, nor am I absolutely convinced that this is the problem. Everything I have tested on the car has either been checked and works... or has been replaced! Thus the problem is likely to be simple (i.e its not a ecu or other control box). Its now just a matter of finding where the fault is, and thats why I need an auto electrician to go through the car on a wire to wire basis, and test every circuit and sensor. But... I have been busy at work, and so unfortunately the car has not started since August 28th!!!!!!! Enough said -Ben Edited by phb10186 |
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