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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 05-November-2005 at 10:00 |
Tough. They're my choice for winter. Matter closed. |
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Hiabboy
Really Senior Member I Joined: 05-February-2005 Status: Offline Points: 325 |
Posted: 05-November-2005 at 10:10 |
Horsetan you are very off form these days , if you hadn't sold your ro80 i'd suspect your plugs were oiled up ! or maybe you've found a new rust hole on the 6 ?. I haven't found any new 'eruptions' on mine for nearly six months , i'm sure there must be some new scabs lurking , it got wet the other night ! |
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Profit is more reasonable than justice.
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 05-November-2005 at 10:21 |
It must have something to do with being unable to get a certain 1985 635CSi to start up. And it's NOT the DME relay. |
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AndyS
Really Senior Member II The Last of the Few Joined: 21-August-2003 Location: 55 � North Status: Offline Points: 1365 |
Posted: 06-November-2005 at 11:58 |
Well I like my style 32's for year round use!
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Drew540i
Really Senior Member II Available from all good newsagents! Joined: 15-August-2005 Location: The Mansfield Massive Status: Offline Points: 632 |
Posted: 06-November-2005 at 12:12 |
V.nice. E38 740i??
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DAT 635
Advanced Newbie Joined: 30-September-2005 Location: Tyne & Wear Status: Offline Points: 39 |
Posted: 06-November-2005 at 14:11 |
Some of you may have been aware that I had a set of TRX wheels & tyres for sale ( 240 / 45 / 415 ), well I sold them on friday night & I thought I would tell the "tale of the sale!" I received a phone call at 1600 on Friday night to enquire about the wheels. After a bit of negotiation a price was agreed & this chap said he would be setting off in about half an hour. At this point I gave him my address & enquired where he was setting off from. He said he lived in Miadenhead which bearing in mind I live in Tyne & Wear which is six or seven hours drive on a Friday night! I asked if he realised the distance between us to which he replied that he knew where it was & it was not a problem. Anyway he arrived at my house just before midnight, bought the wheels loaded them in his six series, did,nt stop for as much as a cup of tea & set of back to Maidenhead. While I was waiting for this chap to arrive I was thinking he must be on drugs, but once he had been & left, my thoughts were more along the lines of admiration, because for a man to do that for a set of second hand wheels for £300 there must be nothing in life that this guy would not do!................Unbelievable!!
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AndyS
Really Senior Member II The Last of the Few Joined: 21-August-2003 Location: 55 � North Status: Offline Points: 1365 |
Posted: 06-November-2005 at 17:18 |
It's a clear 300 miles! And for TRX's too.
Maybe I should tray & sell mine? |
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AndyS
Really Senior Member II The Last of the Few Joined: 21-August-2003 Location: 55 � North Status: Offline Points: 1365 |
Posted: 06-November-2005 at 17:20 |
They were marked "E39 Sport" in felt pen on the inside. |
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Sohlman
Really Senior Member II Coupe Chairman Joined: 19-August-2003 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 1259 |
Posted: 10-November-2005 at 16:52 |
Having good rubber on the rears are very important and if those big fat rears are worn then they won't grip much. Our E39 has only 235's on the rear and when we were down to 3mm of tread the car was all over the place in the wet. As for getting the car to handle there are lots of things to do. Bilstein dampers are a must and are one of the best things you can do. There are plenty of spring options, but i would go with either M635 springs or get hold of what i have which is Eibach US Spec springs. Stiffening the anti roll bars also makes a big difference, but obviously with this set up the car will grip longer, but when it goes it will go faster. You can still buy the E28 M5 25mm front anti roll bars, but the rear is no longer available. However from www.balancemotorsport.co.uk you can buy both an uprated front and rear anti roll bar for the six. With regards to tyres and wheels. Personally i think the six handles better with slightly thinner tyres. Certainly the highline 245 metrics are over tyred. Having used 17" wheels with 235/45/17 tyres all round and the 16" Alpina's with 225/50/zr16 i think the 16's seem better in terms of both grip and ride. My current set up is Bilstein Sport Dampers, Eibach US Spec springs lowering car by about 25mm, Racing dynamic aluminium and stiffer than steel anti roll bars with 22mm fronts and 18mm rears. Alpina 16" original wheels with Toyo Proxie tyres of a 225/50/ZR16 tyres. The car grips very well indeed and requires fairly libral amounts of the right foot to get the rear end out of shape. The car has the 5 speed overdrive manual box and a 25% LSD. I hope this helps and gets the topic back to the original question. James |
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Jimbob
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 27-July-2005 Location: Live: West Sussex - Work: Islington Status: Offline Points: 190 |
Posted: 11-November-2005 at 05:32 |
James, Do I remember you mentioning Strut braces? I only say this because you havent mentioned them here, so was just wondering if you felt they dont affect handling... |
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And so says Jimbob.
1981 635csi 81k miles. Will be fixed, but not by me. |
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Sohlman
Really Senior Member II Coupe Chairman Joined: 19-August-2003 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 1259 |
Posted: 11-November-2005 at 20:39 |
Have a strut brace too. They stiffen up the front a little bit and i rechon you get about a 10-15% increase in turn in and a significant reduction in understeer on the long sweeper. Also rechon with them tyre wear is more even as the edges are not wearing out like they used to. Forgot to mention it on the post above. Sorry James |
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GraemeH
Senior Member I Joined: 03-November-2005 Location: At the beach, North Wales Status: Offline Points: 125 |
Posted: 13-November-2005 at 05:33 |
New E24 back from the restor-a-rusty-spot shop. On the way to looking gorgeous. Now, to investigate that strut brace, etc! Ta. Though perhaps, just perhaps, it's gonna need a little drive around the island first. ;-) |
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siscobmw
Senior Member II Joined: 13-May-2005 Location: North Italy , near lake of Como Status: Offline Points: 201 |
Posted: 15-November-2005 at 12:29 |
First of all, it's good that you have swapped trxs for 17 " wheels... My opinions, as I recently met a lot of italian 635 owners with every combinations of setup(you will find the word better about 100 times in this post!!!tried 6 635s and 3 M635s, from 14 up to 18" wheels...): Then, First thing You have to do is get a LSD or rebuild your one , as ZF LSD won't last forever, especially with old oil in it.They really make the dfference.I transformed my non lsd car into a LSD one, but locked up to 40% ...wow. FOr the tyres: 265 are too much, 235 or 255 with 17" are very good, over You will get only troubles... Other: after 5/82 , every 635 got sticky rear antirollbars,after 9/83 got decent ones: 15,5 mm diameters made(if i remember correctly).I tried my car with Mtech suspensions, 12mm rear antiroll bar, 84 635 with LSD, no M suspensions and 205/70 14(really the best compromise...),and later cars with trx or 16 or again 17" wheels... My friends and me tried to put old 12(or 14) millimeters antirollbars on late car, instead of 15,5 mm bars.( The rear became more flat to the ground ,and my friends really can bet that it's better , now. sometimes You have to do one step "in reverse" , to improve things... With TRX: i tried my car(I can use only those round things-I don't waste the word tyres for that michelin stuff- bacause I live in italy and we have , here, stupid laws) with stiffer antirollbars at rear...very undriveable, the car slipped everywhere.I come back to original slim stuff.With trx You can only do one thng: remve them, if you want to save your life instead the car originality. with 14": I used to drive a 635 , 1984 with 205/70 14 (fulda Assuro)in the wet( I'm talking of a 100-120 mph run, not 30mph )...the car has a very good performancein the dry ....In the end the best for performance, comfort, tyres prices.even more with good 205/65 vr 15(before you think that is a old tyre size, try a 635 with that tyres setup). 16":You won't go over for the best, tough You have to go for Bilsteins or Mtech suspensione to get the best.... With M suspensions: You improve dramatically the drive, also on the wet.... but don't think for a moment that now your 635 will be like a new 5 series E60 ....it's far better than previously , but not so far... With strut brace: the body has now enough strenght to give them a chance also on trackdays...and on normal road You will notice the improvement. springs: walk away from cheap spring set, or your car will drop about 3 inches at the front(ask me How I know!), and the ride is a disaster. Eibach or Schnitzer(if you can find them) are good, the other are not so good , in the end(well i forgot Alpina...one other great brand for fast BMW riders). hope this helps. Francesco from North italy Edited by siscobmw |
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