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AaronM3 
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Joined: 27-November-2004 Location: Langdon Hills, Essex Status: Offline Points: 123 |
 Topic: Fifth Gear tonight (12/12)Posted: 12-December-2005 at 07:51 |
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Europameister
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Joined: 25-August-2005 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 64 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 08:17 |
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What time did your car manage Aaron?
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AaronM3
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Joined: 27-November-2004 Location: Langdon Hills, Essex Status: Offline Points: 123 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 08:57 |
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I don't remember actually... it wasn't a great time tbh but I think it's not really comparable to the new cars they test as they really do get thrashed within an inch of their lives- there was melting clutches and overheated engines left, right and centre. He treated my car with a little more sympathy and respect and didn't even realise I'd be getting some free tyres out of it until dinner that evening! |
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amorgan
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Joined: 08-December-2003 Location: united kingdom Status: Offline Points: 288 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 09:04 |
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What bhp do those intergrale's have? Bit surprised it was the early model that they put it against. Hoped it would had been a evo model from the h-j reg onwards.
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coates
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Joined: 16-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 198 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 10:48 |
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gents, i must say im a little dissapointed with the times, integrale;56.74/m3; 56.91 check the link to look at the shoot out table, according to this a mitsubishi czt and citreon c2 gt are quicker than an e30 m3??? |
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E30 M3 1990.
GSXR 750(K1)TRACK WEAPON. |
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jamesrose
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Joined: 10-October-2003 Location: Billericay, Essex Status: Offline Points: 372 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 11:06 |
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The sport Ka is not far behind - the horror |
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AaronM3
Senior Member I
Joined: 27-November-2004 Location: Langdon Hills, Essex Status: Offline Points: 123 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 11:36 |
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I too was a little disappointed but considering Tiff wasted two clutches and the XJR exploded in a spectacular cloud of steam (nothing to do with me borrowing it...!) then I am glad to sacrifice a bit of time for the fact that my car made it home in one piece. That said, I did get a new gearbox upon my return and it does seem to pull a lot stronger now so maybe it could have done a little better- I think really you can only compare the two alongside each other though rather than to the new machinery.
Anglesey doesn't really reward extra horse-power so I'm not surprised that the warm/hot hatches are almost as quick as they can barrel round flat out!
The Colt was a turbo as well though- 150hp or so I think. But the C2 GT... jeez...
Oh, and the sun was in Tiff's eyes...
er... wrong kind of tyres...
etc...
Let's see what they say on the show...!
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M3Booboo
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Joined: 25-July-2005 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 120 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 11:45 |
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Excuse the ignorance!...what channel is 5th gear on pls? For those who are interested...Autocar this week supposed to have some kind of article featuring E30 M3...out tomorow 13.12.05 |
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Owned original Sport Evo when new...couldn't resist buying another one 15 years later!
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AaronM3
Senior Member I
Joined: 27-November-2004 Location: Langdon Hills, Essex Status: Offline Points: 123 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 11:51 |
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Peter Fenwick
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Joined: 27-August-2003 Location: Lost somewhere in time... Status: Offline Points: 6484 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 11:54 |
Chanel 5 tonight at 8 o'clock If the cars are that knackered after lapping as has been said then it's not really a good comparison of how fast they are is it. There's no point in having a car that will lap in x seconds if it needs a new clutch after doing it. |
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Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel.
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AaronM3
Senior Member I
Joined: 27-November-2004 Location: Langdon Hills, Essex Status: Offline Points: 123 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 12:07 |
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It tended to be the cars who weren't really suited to such work- the little Suzuki Swift needed bump starting in second towards the end of the 2nd day and the XJR isn't really suited to track time I guess. The other clutch was the Mitsi EVO 6 but I suppose that was second hand. Looking at that chart shows some interesting results- the Fiesta ST for example put in an absolute stormer! I drove that very one though and it did seem quicker than the one I test drove from a dealer... hmmmm.... |
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Jonners
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Joined: 23-September-2003 Status: Offline Points: 601 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 12:11 |
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let's not kid ourselves
i love the e30 m3 as much as anyone and stopped doing the lottery as soon as i got mine but it's not a blow 'em into the weeds sort of vehicle - never was a well driven clio williams will give an e30 m3 a fright let alone some of the latest generation hatches this really isn't something to have a crisis about...unless you're competing in which case it's an entirely different story and by competing i don't mean at the traffic lights relatively speaking the e30 m3 is now very very old hat indeed... ...just like the 250 GTO etc etc these tv timed track tests are great fun but don't prove anything e30 m3 was and is one of THE cars for the afficianodo not a car for pub credibility or knicker dropping power |
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coates
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Joined: 16-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 198 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 12:35 |
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Well said. |
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E30 M3 1990.
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AaronM3
Senior Member I
Joined: 27-November-2004 Location: Langdon Hills, Essex Status: Offline Points: 123 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 12:44 |
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Totally agree- although some of the cars it is below on th 5G list it would/should certainly best in like-for-like track situations. Beat the transit though. Just. |
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SHEPSM3
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UK Sport Evolution. Joined: 26-December-2004 Location: Bristol, UK. Status: Offline Points: 1934 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 14:01 |
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I shall be watching, some of those times are odd, although I suspect much of it depends on wind, temps, etc. Anglesea can be extremely windy, and you can actually feel the car holding back on some parts of the track because of it. Looking forward to it. |
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m3e30
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Joined: 16-October-2005 Status: Offline Points: 23 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 14:10 |
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Hi, I live in Holland but I would like to see this episode of 5th gear as well of course! so could someone post a link where you can download this episode, I know you have www.finalgear.com but how long after the episode has been on TV it comes on finalgear.com? Does anyone know this?
Thanks in advance Joep
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mmm-five
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 16-January-2003 Status: Offline Points: 343 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 14:14 |
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I've been to Anglesey a lot of times and when we've been allowed to time
we've seen e30 325's down to 54 seconds so I can't see an e30 M3 being slower than that. Even my barge managed a 55 second lap - albeit on sticky tyres. |
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I_MNL
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Joined: 27-March-2005 Status: Offline Points: 437 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 14:53 |
Yeap E30 M3 vs 130i.....!!!!! |
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Citizen of the Earth
 Explorer of Life  Marie-Noëlle or nick name MNL. NOT Marie or Noëlle ALONE! Alpina D3 2007 E36 316 1998 |
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Dannyboy
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Joined: 24-August-2005 Location: Hunstanton Status: Offline Points: 301 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 15:39 |
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did tiff set that lap time with all those power slides if so no wonder he
was only just faster than a sport ka |
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1998 Subaru Impreza Turbo Terzo Great 1987 M3 Diamond Black Awesome (Now awesomer with Billys & Eibach) |
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TRACKPIG
Really Senior Member II
Joined: 07-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 582 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 15:48 |
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just watched 5th gear i must say i am a bit gutted flat out and only just quicker than a street ka no disrespect to you or your car aaron but i wish they used a 215 with lower mileage just a slightly quicker time would have seen it sitting next to more respectable cars. |
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REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS
E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
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