Do i need 5mm spacers on the front??

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I am collecting my new wheels tonight, ....Thank you very much Jim M3,....I am very excited.......... but i have a query, I have heard some fit normally, and some need 5mm spacers. My car is a Late 90 early 91 model.....Will they Fit, or should i get the spacers????
I hear some of you have the same wheels, so your advise would be appreciated.   Thanks

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Newbsta1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 12-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 92	Topic: Do i need 5mm spacers on the front?? Posted: 20-December-2005 at 09:51
	I am collecting my new wheels tonight, ....Thank you very much Jim M3,....I am very excited.......... but i have a query, I have heard some fit normally, and some need 5mm spacers. My car is a Late 90 early 91 model.....Will they Fit, or should i get the spacers???? I hear some of you have the same wheels, so your advise would be appreciated. Thanks
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trackM3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II Joined: 13-April-2005 Location: Brands Hatch Status: Offline Points: 549	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:03
	What ET are they, if they are the same as mine ET20 then with new Brake pads you need at least 5mm spacers, try to get them with hubcentric rings attached ? if needed that is ? bore size ? regards

Newbsta1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 12-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 92	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:08
	Thanks for replying They are from an E39 540i 97/98 BBS Split rim RC090 5 x 120 PCD with an offset of ET20. The current pads are not new but not old? You mentioned Bore size?? sorry, i am still learning could they fir for now, and when replace brakes pads, then get the spacers??
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trackM3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II Joined: 13-April-2005 Location: Brands Hatch Status: Offline Points: 549	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:16
	The centre bore size of these wheels is larger than the M3 hub so you will need hubcentric rings anyway, you are best to get them fitted to the spacer as one. Try wheels uk i think they are in coventry ? www.wheels.uk.com The reason for the pad question was if you have a newish pad the caliper rattle clip etc hits on the iner spokes of the wheel hence the spacer will be needed get 4 spacers and do the rear so as to keep the track width the same front to back, no problems with turn in when/if on track ? regards

Newbsta1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 12-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 92	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:29
	....Sorry, I am getting 4 x Spiggot ?? (I think that was close :-) rings with the wheels..... when ready to change the pads, i will go for the all in one rings you mentioned from Wheels UK.... Really appreciate your help here.... thank you
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trackM3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II Joined: 13-April-2005 Location: Brands Hatch Status: Offline Points: 549	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:32
	The front wheels will not fit without spacers even with half worn pads ?? i stand corrected but i have these exact wheels fitted. they are just worse with new pads hence the question.

Newbsta1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 12-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 92	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:34
	would it be best that i just buy 4 x spacers straight aweay?? or just 2 x
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trackM3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II Joined: 13-April-2005 Location: Brands Hatch Status: Offline Points: 549	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:34
	7mm spacer fitted http://photobucket.com/albums/c258/trackm3/?action=view& current=Picture098.jpg regards

trackM3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II Joined: 13-April-2005 Location: Brands Hatch Status: Offline Points: 549	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:35
	You can buy 2 but the handling will change, not as responsive, turn in.

Newbsta1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 12-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 92	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:38
	4 it is....I am on to Eibach as we speak.... They have them in stock for delivery tomorrow :-) once again...thanks for your help (Slightly gutted as have a long business trip i need to take and wanted to take the M3 as it has been in the garage for 7 weeks.... :-( ) but i can wait one more day Nic
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trackM3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II Joined: 13-April-2005 Location: Brands Hatch Status: Offline Points: 549	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:42
	remember to get longer bolts regards

Newbsta1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 12-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 92	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:43
	good call........
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Newbsta1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 12-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 92	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:45
	Can you remeber off the top of your head what size??
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trackM3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II Joined: 13-April-2005 Location: Brands Hatch Status: Offline Points: 549	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:47
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Newbsta1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 12-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 92	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:50
	ok, eibach either do 5mm or 8mm spacers ??? which would you go for, or should i try wheels uk?? and if i quoted those bolt lengths to BMW they will know wha i am talking about....?
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trackM3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II Joined: 13-April-2005 Location: Brands Hatch Status: Offline Points: 549	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:53
	Lots of companies do longer bolts Demon Tweeks etc, Main dealers will only do std length bolts 5mm spacers were fine on mine, i just use 7mm so they will also fit my track wheels regards Martin

Newbsta1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 12-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 92	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:56
	Martin......Again, Thank you very much. Nic
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UweM3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 11-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5445	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:59
	Whjy don't you just take the clip off till pads are worn down a little bit and forget about that spacer business?????
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trackM3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II Joined: 13-April-2005 Location: Brands Hatch Status: Offline Points: 549	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 11:02
	Tried that they still don't fit,(HITS THE WHOLE CALIPER BODY) spacers are needed, unless anyone else has overcome it ?

Newbsta1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 12-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 92	Posted: 20-December-2005 at 11:05
	Are the wheels bolts tapered or radius seating
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