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Points: 10053 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-January-2006 at 19:59
Originally posted by spokey spokey wrote:


Meanwhile, 20 000 die needlessly due to government incompetence IN
HOSPITALS. Why aren't they making so much effort on that front?


..the do.. they close wards because the hospitols can't afford to keep them open. Closed wards mean less people to care for which = less deaths in hospitols. The statistics go down, but they don't tell you why.

Some hospitols build new wings, then close them - but still heat them. One hospitol built a new gynocology wing - the carpet that was deliverd wasn't liked by one of the top brass that visited that day so they skipped it as it couldn't be returned (tens of thousands of pounds worth). There are too many cheifs and not enough indians - but that is a different topic alltogether. (I know someone that worked on the wing of the hospitol in question before you ask,that was there)
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Points: 745 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-January-2006 at 01:34
Originally posted by spokey spokey wrote:


Anyway. It's just 225 people, for which we carry this crushing load of invasive regulation and spying.

Meanwhile, 20 000 die needlessly due to government incompetence IN HOSPITALS. Why aren't they making so much effort on that front?


It's not just 225 people , it's not just deaths from speeding or tackling just speeding & with ANPR etc it's not just traffic offences.

Yes, I know about the problems in hospitals, I know about the waste in hospitals, I know that the amount of training etc (& they are given a lot with constant reminders everywhere on the wards I have experience of) that is given & focused on contamination leading to MRSA etc. It's a totally different discussion. The pressure that doctors & nurses are under due to numbers leads to complacency & corner cutting in hygiene there, so let's help them out by keeping people from going to hospital in the first place through unnecessary collisions & that will free resources to also help with that fight.


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Points: 2098 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-January-2006 at 04:20

Looking at the complete lack of maintenance to - and investment in - our road network, in a few years time this whole discussion based on using the roads and standards on them will be irrelevant - they will be un-usable by anyone who doesn't have an SUV.

Can anyone remember seeing a road being 'properly' re-laid (like you used you see *under maggie * )?

I haven't seen anything other than M and dualled A roads having any serious work done for easily 10 years. Yes there are by-passes for villages where councillors live but what good are these if they aren't fed by the existing roads?

Where is all this money going? - third world and pay rises for MP's no doubt
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Points: 1948 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-January-2006 at 11:58
Originally posted by livvy livvy wrote:

Originally posted by spokey spokey wrote:

But I'm not going to keep quiet when someone defends the status quo for the uncaring masses while moaning at enthusiast drivers for not making more effort to do things.


Who's defending the status quo. I'm for action. But it has to be realistic with achieveable goals towards minimising/reducing death & injury on our roads.


Which is basically to slow everyone down (not just with speed limits), rather than spend any money making the roads better or providing a viable alternative.

The kind of action you are promoting is more scameras, more fascist bungling, more restriction of the individual, moaning at people to join the IAM and absolving the government for any of the blame.

Sadly, I suppose that is realistic. Certainly very apt for NeuLabour.
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Points: 10000473 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-January-2006 at 12:16

 

Originally posted by livvy livvy wrote:

Originally posted by spokey spokey wrote:

But I'm not going to keep quiet when someone defends the status quo...


Who's defending the status quo....

whats the matter with Status Quo - why do they need defending?

http://www.statusquo.co.uk/

 

 

(sorry! just trying to inject a bit of humour into the thread.)
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Points: 6484 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-January-2006 at 13:22
Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

 

Originally posted by livvy livvy wrote:

Originally posted by spokey spokey wrote:

But I'm not going to keep quiet when someone defends the status quo...


Who's defending the status quo....

whats the matter with Status Quo - why do they need defending?

http://www.statusquo.co.uk/

 

 

(sorry! just trying to inject a bit of humour into the thread.)

Status quo............oh my god!!

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Points: 10000473 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-January-2006 at 18:31

Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

  
Originally posted by livvy livvy wrote:

Originally posted by spokey spokey wrote:

But I'm not going to keep quiet when someone defends the status quo...
Who's defending the status quo....
Whats the matter with Status Quo - why do they need defending?  http://www.statusquo.co.uk/

(sorry! just trying to inject a bit of humour into the thread.)

Status quo............oh my god!!  

And what's wrong with Status Quo?!  

I was lucky enough to see them play in their tour just before that cancelled the rest - 2 & 1/2 hours with a 10 min break! Not bad for old men!  
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Points: 6484 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-January-2006 at 12:56
Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

And what's wrong with Status Quo?!  

Not my thing.......

I prefer my rock a bit heavier halm.gif
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Points: 10000473 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-January-2006 at 17:50
Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

And what's wrong with Status Quo?!  
Not my thing.......

I prefer my rock a bit heavier halm.gif

AHA! such as........ http://www.acdcrocks.com/ 

or  http://www.deep-purple.com/

or did you mean  http://www.thedarknessrock.com/home.html 
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Points: 10053 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-January-2006 at 19:11
Back on topic please.

(..no mention of Slayer, Obituary etc..? )
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Points: 1948 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-January-2006 at 19:13
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Points: 6484 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-January-2006 at 06:04
Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

And what's wrong with Status Quo?!  
Not my thing.......

I prefer my rock a bit heavier halm.gif

AHA! such as........ http://www.acdcrocks.com/ 

or  http://www.deep-purple.com/

or did you mean  http://www.thedarknessrock.com/home.html 

None of the above. In fact I can't stand the darkness.

I was thinking of Machinehead, Monster Magnet, Overkill, Korn, Ozzy to name but a few.
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