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    Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:05
Owner of this car just emailed me to ask if I wanted to swap.

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=305598

Classic insurance, smaller more fun car as I wanted, a bit old for my liking. Was going to go for a 993 or even a 996. What do you guys think.

I just had 3 friends in my car in the weekend driving them into town. For obviously put the foot down, hey had so much fun 2 of them asked me how much do I want for it. Can't do that in the Porsche tho. Decisions.

p.s. Also it means I can't hang with you guys no more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:13

Of course you can hang out with us!

High enough miles. Age in a Porsche wouldn't bother me, as long as it has been looked after. I'd try for a 993 C2 if possible - so much more sorted in lots of respects. That one is an absolute honey though! I'd be tempted if I were you...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:15

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The Porsche looks like a nice car but if he is looking for a straight swap or anything close then imho you'd be mad to take it.  A Porsche like that should be a second or third car only.  Rack up an average sort of mileage on it and the bills will mount pretty quickly and the value will drop accordingly.

This money would buy you more car from the UK.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:16
Nice but hang on in there Kin for the E46 M3!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:26
Had a second though and opinion(s) and unless he is going to offer me a bit of cash for the swap iy will be a no go. Ah we will see. For a bit mre I can get a 996.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:46
The 964 was built when porsche had no cash and as a result corners were cut.. this is the most unreliable of recent 911's.. drive shafts being a common problem... I would look for a 993 if i were you.They are a world apart in reliability and handling terms, and of course looks... Actually i'd hang on to the m5 as it would have the 964 for breakfast!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:47
best change my signature or TJ will be looking for royalties!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:50

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That particular model of porsche is a bit of a handful.  A close relative has had two of those 964's (the last of the air cooled ones I think) and his were immaculate (with under 20k miles), and the bills are extremely steep.  Whatever you think of BMW servicing costs porsche is another leg up altogether.  I know you can get specialists that will do it cheaper but that is a high mileage car and even though it has been well maintained, you never know whats around the corner.

Another thing, the M5 is easier to drive faster on public roads, even though thats a 4wd model.

Save for a 993 or an E46 M3 if I wanted something a bit less saloon like than your current car.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:56

no royaltys required, Beemer Fan!

993s are honeys - that's what I'd go for.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:58
I do love those transitional 911's, the newer shapes dont really do much for me. But I dont think its at all fair to compare it with the m5 tho - they are SO different in all respects; close to comparing a car with a motorbike IMHO!!!

That porsche has probably depreciated almost as much as it ever will - so you could get it for a year and see how the relationship goes??? Wont cost you all that much even with the higher servicing as the M5 would be depreciating a fair bit over the same period... Just a thought.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:10

Nobody else has mentioned it, so I'll probably be wrong, but how does it qualify as classic - it's only 17 years old.  I though classic was 20+?

Also, a classic policy would be likely to restrict your mileage.

Personally, I'd prefer the M5.  But I'm just odd.........

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:11

Originally posted by llatsni llatsni wrote:

I do love those transitional 911's, the newer shapes dont really do much for me. But I dont think its at all fair to compare it with the m5 tho - they are SO different in all respects; close to comparing a car with a motorbike IMHO!!!

That porsche has probably depreciated almost as much as it ever will - so you could get it for a year and see how the relationship goes??? Wont cost you all that much even with the higher servicing as the M5 would be depreciating a fair bit over the same period... Just a thought.

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Just on the depreciation thing, thats not entirely true.  I know that when you look on carzone etc you will see that these cars seem to have a minimal value but actually finding a buyer it for it at that money is a different matter.

I know also that porsches are supposed to be bulletproof and will go forever if looked after correctly but a lot of people when buying them expect a low mileage example; the cars are so impractical for a lot of people they are often second cars so buyers come to expect one that has done certainly less than 5k miles per year of ownership.

At 120k I think this one falls into a category that would put a lot of potential buyers off so it might be difficult to shift if you needed to do it in a hurry.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:24

very exensive porsche, for that here I can get a 993 C4S with only 2/3 of the mileage!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:26

So in conclusion Kin, if ya want a change but love the practicality, get one of these:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:30
Naaa.... If i wanted to carry people around I will stick with the M5. Since my friends were not too keen when I was going to install a meter in the car I want to get a smaller car/coupe. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:31

Originally posted by Kin Mak Kin Mak wrote:

Owner of this car just emailed me to ask if I wanted to swap.

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=305598

Classic insurance, smaller more fun car as I wanted, a bit old for my liking. Was going to go for a 993 or even a 996. What do you guys think.

I just had 3 friends in my car in the weekend driving them into town. For obviously put the foot down, hey had so much fun 2 of them asked me how much do I want for it. Can't do that in the Porsche tho. Decisions.

p.s. Also it means I can't hang with you guys no more.

You can get a decent porsche cheap these days.........sell your own car.........but 30 or 40k with it and you can get a nice clean, low 98 / 99 pork 911.  Perfect.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:36
Originally posted by Kin Mak Kin Mak wrote:

Naaa.... If i wanted to carry people around I will stick with the M5. Since my friends were not too keen when I was going to install a meter in the car I want to get a smaller car/coupe. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:42
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:43
How about a Lancia Integralle?   I know where there's one in a showroom....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:49
Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:

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Theres a TASTY black one on autotrader.co.uk - a 2003 with only 11k miles for 38k sterling - but it would be easily 75k euro once the VRT is payed.

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