M62/S62 V8 into E46 Engine Transplant

SFH3L wrote: With an appetite for that kind of power, you're not the Walter R are you?  I thought Porsches were more your line....... Te he.  It would make for one viscious car though.

I should be so lucky.                                                                                                                                

Uwe I'm after a complete conversion, most likely using a 4.4 or 4.6 V8 enginewith an ASA supercharger or similar (not the M5 engine)

286bhp, Seems great minds think alike.................... My plan was to use an early E46 M3 (something a bit leggy on the miles, if poss with an SMG box) could the flappy paddles then be used to work the  autobox ?

Crane out the six pot and drop in a M62 lump with either an ASA or  Dinan S/C kit with a slushbox on the back off it.

What car model/year had the 4.4 non vanos engine in it ?

The Dinan S/C kits look expensive in comparison with some of the other kits available from the States. (Are you paying for the name or are they better quality ?)

Does anyone market a kit utilising the ASA charger ? (I've been on ASA's  site and no mention is made of specific kits for individual cars)

What sort of power/torque did the Dinan S/C 4.4 NV cars make ? 400-420Hp and 360-380 Ft Lbs Torque?

Website in developement ( that old chestnut - no really !!) a complicated site so lots of tech , but I will put full project detail in when set up ( and when Iv'e paid my advertising to BMW CC ).

The Dinan kit is of high quality, and everything fits without too much hassle. The instructions are fairly foolproof , iv'e fitted many S/C kits that have lost a lot in the language translation, as well as differences between the kit in the instructions and  the supplied kit.( no I don't work for Dinan - I tell as I see ) 

Dinan claimed around 412bhp, the car was a 97/8 non vanos E39 4.4. Torque was a lot more than the S62 at 397lb/ft. The car pulled very strongly through the midrange, as you'd expect , it didn't really need to be revved over 6k to really produce the goods.

Another method would be to take the M62 and take it to 5.0l, reboring the block with steel top-hat liners, somehting that works really well with race engines - gets rid of the will it - won't it wear out-worries of the Alusil / Nikasil block , enabling lots more piston/ring options to try. This will return an easy 385 bhp without the cooling and space issues of an s/c. If you were then really power corrupted , some l/c pistons and a good s/c conversion for the wrong side of 500 bhp .......

The 4.8 has a capacity increase to 93mm, it also gains S62 conrods and a custom crank- I have't got the stroke specs to hand. The 5 litre conversion does the same , but with a stroke increase again. I can get prices for the steel liner option. For a one - off top hat bore sleeve, about £200 + vat. Obviously for 8, price price is less, depends on spec , bore size etc. On top of that, new pistons / rods - £1000 for pistons, £1500 custom crank, £1200 - £1500 for custom forged rods. The 5.0 litre engine is a good £8000 , but engineered correctly, should last a looooooong time. The Dinan S/C will probably cost about the same - I think it retails at $15,000 in the us. Most Hartge 5.0's return 385bhp on stock exhausts, headers & heads. With a good head port, cams, biggger TB, they reckoned 400 + may be possible.

eljockvis wrote: hi   sorry to mention the s62 again but it puts out 400 bhp standard and much more is possible!! i think dinan had an e39 m5 putting out 470bhp,and i was reading up on that new ascari kz1 super car and they have managed 500bhp with external mods only!! wouldnt that be better?

Iv'e seen a couple of reasonably heavily modded S62's, the best one gave 445bhp, thats with race cats, sport exhaust, tubular manifolds, headwork, shrick cams, engine software , intake system upgrade and a large bill to fit it all. Another colleague sent a customers S62 engine from the U.S. all the way to Nowack in Germany, and got 450 bhp for $40,000 !!!! I suspect a much higher c/r and steel liners will be necessary for 500bhp

Regards

Phil

hi

i thought you guys might like this,i thought the e39 m5 could give the stock

e60 a semi decent run but i was wrong,check oot this moded dinan 470 bhp e39 m5 getting trashed,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8489818365764452225 &q=m5+e60+s2