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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 13:07

Ian, if you give me a guarantee they will come back in 1 piece you are more than welcome

The spoiler is there if you need it though and can't get another.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 13:15
You had better watch it,I think they have corners in rallies
Sorry Ian couldn`t resist
Bent mine last night aswell
The way I see it,you made 2 mistakes and the second one was posting it on here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 13:20
leave Ian alone u bunch of stuck up fannys .give the guy a break or the big man will visit you in the night

good luck with the car ian

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 13:34
Originally posted by jon90 jon90 wrote:

You had better watch it,I think they have corners in rallies
Sorry Ian couldn`t resist
Bent mine last night aswell
The way I see it,you made 2 mistakes and the second one was posting it on here.
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what did you do then!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 14:28

Cheers Simon , but I have a spoiler and back bumper coming from Moseleys tomorrow , couldn't guarantee that anyway so best keep them up with you

 

Jon - what are these corners you speak of , I thought they only existed in a Galaxy far far away , what you done to yours ? watch what you say on here though !!

 

You tell em Daz ,

 

Cheers Ian

 

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 14:59

Blimey!

That got you all going didn't it.  Ian, I'm glad you are OK.  Cars are just work & money, life is a lot more important.  Looks like we might be seeing a bit more car porn on here then.

I think there are lessons there for all of us.  I regard myself as a safe and intelligent driver who wouldn't drive outside the box - not on a public road at least.  However, hands up who had been comfortably driving within their particular envelope till they had a near miss of one sort or another that helped them recallibrate where that envelope actually lay.  I know that I have frightened myself a few times and learnt as a result. 

Full marks to Ian for being prepared to share it with us.  I don't think he was bragging, and I'm sure he thought he was being safe.  What happened proves he was not 100% right in that judgement of the situation, but that is very easy to summise after the event, with a smashed M3 as evidence.

Not a man of religion, but "judge not, lest ye be judged" creeps into view for me.........

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 15:05
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 17:28
QUOTE;Jon - what are these corners you speak of , I thought they only existed in a Galaxy far far away , what you done to yours ? watch what you say on here though !!

I refuse to answer on the grounds that i may incriminate myself

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 17:30
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 17:37
I wasn`t aware that the Highway Code was an influence in the design of the BMW M3.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 17:49

My god there's alot of fannys on here!

If the road is an empty duel carriageway then you can guarantee that no one else will be involved unless some light aircraft pilot has to make an emergency landing but that's as much his fault as anyones!

I'm sure all you do-gooders have never exceeded the speed limit in a built up area, and never driven a car that you weren't 100% sure was completely perfect! Liars!

Yes he ****ed up, no one else was or could have been involved. So be quiet.

Bad luck Ian, hope it all comes together ok. Maybe some better tyres for the rally.

And not the best idea admiting it on here with pics of the car with your name on!

If everything seems under control, then you're just not going fast enough....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 18:02
I'd give it to him, hes certainly got balls posting it on here, I don't think I would have the courage to do that!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-March-2006 at 18:06

From my earlier post :-  Well Ian, i dont know what you expected when you posted this it's bound to cause some mixed reactions,

I told you it would didnt i eh, you will always get those that think your a utter and complete moron, then you will get those who think your a hero, but everyone, everyone is entitled to there own opinion weither its what you want to hear or not, Ian you posted it so you have to accept peoples comments from both side of the fence and take it on the chin me old son, ive lost quite a few goods friends doing what you have done but at less speed i must add, and on a clear road, me im just happy that the road didnt claim you as another statistic and i dont even know you.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-March-2006 at 04:36

Lesson for everyone is that if you are going to mess with a brake bias valve, start with the bias set towards the front. At least if it is too far forward all you risk is a locked front whell and not a handbrake turn!

Good luck Ian

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-March-2006 at 12:43

Ian Godney, you are a danger to society

 

Seriously though, I am amazed at the reaction from some of the forum members.

I think whether he was going at 100mph or 70mph, he would have still had the issue with the back snapping out and at 70mph, he still would have damaged the car and his ego.

Remember, speed limits are laws, not gospel. So, going at 100 in germany is alright on the autobahn, whereas 71 on a dual carraigeway in Britain is wrong, but only by the law.

Just remember, no one was actually hurt in the making of this thread, but Ian will surely learn a lesson to perhaps be less hasty with testing his brakes and then posting the results on a public forum.

Also, would people be up in arms if Kwikfit had done the brake bias adjustment. Seeing as Ians 'thing' is brakes, he is probably the best person to set it all up.

 

Lesson is, if you are going to speed, don't admit it on a public forum.

If anyone remembers, a lass got convicted of speeding via admission on a forum.

Hope you get it sorted.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-March-2006 at 12:50

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-March-2006 at 12:51
Thats right eh, Paul..........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-March-2006 at 13:29
Originally posted by Rags Rags wrote:

Ian Godney, you are a danger to society


 


Seriously though, I am amazed at the reaction from some of the forum members.


I think whether he was going at 100mph or 70mph, he would have still had the issue with the back snapping out and at 70mph, he still would have damaged the car and his ego.


Remember, speed limits are laws, not gospel. So, going at 100 in germany is alright on the autobahn, whereas 71 on a dual carraigeway in Britain is wrong, but only by the law.


Just remember, no one was actually hurt in the making of this thread, but Ian will surely learn a lesson to perhaps be less hasty with testing his brakes and then posting the results on a public forum.


Also, would people be up in arms if Kwikfit had done the brake bias adjustment. Seeing as Ians 'thing' is brakes, he is probably the best person to set it all up.


 


Lesson is, if you are going to speed, don't admit it on a public forum.


If anyone remembers, a lass got convicted of speeding via admission on a forum.


Hope you get it sorted.


And breathe...



just one thing, on a normal car you CAN'T adjust brake bias (at least no like with a pedal box). So Kwikfit wouldn't be able to mess that up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-March-2006 at 13:49

Originally posted by 215DMX 215DMX wrote:

Thats right eh, Paul..........

Dave, if you were referring to our drive from my house to my work, I guess its best to keep quiet!   

Simon.......



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-March-2006 at 14:56

no lets not keep it quiet, I think its time for some of you speeders to bring the skeletons out of the closet.  :)

I think its good that Ian posted about the incident. what harm is there in knowing what can happen if you have improper brake bias? atleast some people are a bit more sensitive to the issue now, so not all is lost.

Although, I set brake bias on my car too, usually use the autobahn because I set it at high speed say 160 mph down to 80 mph and I raise the rear bias so that it is just twitchy. That is a good start for the track and then you may have to back off a step further to account for road irregularities, off camber, downhill, etc.  Also, the bias on semi-slick or slicks is different than on street tires. so if set on street tires, you have too much rear bias for your race tires.

Im usually braking very progressive and trying to "feel" the rear brake. while the rear end will move around on you, it has never snapped on me. could be suspension too.  the driver could provoke a snapping effect if they just stomped on the brake with too much rear bias. That would spin the car.  Dont underestimate the road either, I once came into bruenchen (ring) pointing the wrong way at first because of too much rear brake bias.  if the rear moves such that we turn in to the turn more that is ok and easy to compensate, if it turns away from the turn thats bad. so I dialed it back a bit. this happend when I swaped to new tires.

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