Sad E3 on eBay - Do you feel lucky? |
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SFH3L
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Topic: Sad E3 on eBay - Do you feel lucky? Posted: 25-April-2006 at 16:41 |
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I know it's not a coupe, but how sad to see one of these majestic lovelies in this condition: (No connection to seller) |
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 25-April-2006 at 16:50 | |
Anyone got a spare bootlid? |
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Ritz81
Newbie Joined: 23-September-2005 Location: Birmingham Status: Offline Points: 32 |
Posted: 25-April-2006 at 16:55 | |
Breaks my heart
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DavesOldBMs
Newbie Joined: 28-February-2006 Status: Offline Points: 18 |
Posted: 26-April-2006 at 05:56 | |
So tempted but I already have too many old BMs. And I already have 2 E3 to hopefully make one good one!
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 26-April-2006 at 07:26 | |
That's more than lucky...
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Aidan316i
Really Senior Member II Joined: 10-April-2005 Location: Derry, N.I Status: Offline Points: 606 |
Posted: 26-April-2006 at 08:10 | |
Interior looks fine on a plus note?
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mjf297
Senior Member I Joined: 08-February-2006 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 125 |
Posted: 26-April-2006 at 08:50 | |
Worth the money just for the alpina's!! Someone give it a good home! |
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kuffs
Groupie Joined: 21-February-2006 Location: Birmingham, West Midlands Status: Offline Points: 89 |
Posted: 26-April-2006 at 14:50 | |
I am seriously thinking of saving this little beut.....but ned some advice on wot im looking at to get it restored.....having been sat for 14 years not sure about how good the engine will be which is my main concern...body works not a prob and interior looks good.... any ideas welcome guys to help save this classic |
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jamie (e39)528i
Really Senior Member II Joined: 03-January-2005 Location: chafford hundred essex Status: Offline Points: 1093 |
Posted: 26-April-2006 at 14:55 | |
Only the brave need apply!! On a serious note if you have the time, money and Know how then this is definately worth saving. You dont see these anymore i dont think i have ever seen one at any of the shows? Good luck and go for it! |
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PaulS
Really Senior Member II East Anglia BMWCC Regional Chairman Joined: 03-July-2004 Location: Aylsham, Norfolk Status: Offline Points: 2516 |
Posted: 26-April-2006 at 15:16 | |
They are rare nowadays - we were fortunate to see one at our last meet which looked lovely. On a nicer note though - possibly a bit overpriced: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1& ;item=4633396985&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT I love the sight of one of these Paul |
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kuffs
Groupie Joined: 21-February-2006 Location: Birmingham, West Midlands Status: Offline Points: 89 |
Posted: 26-April-2006 at 16:18 | |
Wot would one of these be worth restored then??? If I do go ahead with buying it I doubt I would sell it but still nice to know. I have never personally seen a 3.3 LIA in the flesh, has anyone else? |
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 26-April-2006 at 17:47 | |
Difficult to say. Would be pretty priceless in terms of sentiment, though.
No, but did see a black E3 - so clean you could eat your dinner off it - on display at the Donington Show in October last. I seem to remember reading someone's claim that there are supposed to be only about 35 E3s left working in the UK |
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AndyS
Really Senior Member II The Last of the Few Joined: 21-August-2003 Location: 55 � North Status: Offline Points: 1365 |
Posted: 26-April-2006 at 19:59 | |
In that condition? Don't think so - not when tidy but not immaculate ones go for £5k. Take in to account how much you'd need to spend to get a car up to that state. A new engine is £2500 & the rest! CSL's fetch more than CSI's but stuff the race heritage bull, I'd rather have a minter like that CSI. Wish I had a double garage! |
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DavesOldBMs
Newbie Joined: 28-February-2006 Status: Offline Points: 18 |
Posted: 27-April-2006 at 06:19 | |
The 3.3LIA is a very nice drive as I nearly bought one last year but the owner decided not to sell. They are quite a rare version of the E3 and definately worth saving. I have a 3.0SI which I am currently restoring that was standing for the same amount of time as this car. Its hard to say what they are worth as not many come up for sale. It the advert it states that the engine turns which means it can easily be saved. Also they are not Alpina wheels on the car although they do look similar. Cheers Dave |
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Drew540i
Really Senior Member II Available from all good newsagents! Joined: 15-August-2005 Location: The Mansfield Massive Status: Offline Points: 632 |
Posted: 27-April-2006 at 11:27 | |
About 20% of what you'd pay to have it restored. Sadly the E3 is not worth very much and at £200 it's probably too expensive to get a bid - 100 quid would be nearer the mark. An absolute minter might make £5000 on a good day. A VERY good day. As for restoration - this is something to do DIY and expect to take 4-5 years and at least £3000 in parts. You will never make money but what a car to end up with! It's either Granite red or Ruby red. For and engine, chuck the old 3210cc unit in the skip if it's no good and install a nice E34 535i engine. I expect the inner wings and sills/floor are all rotten, and you'll probably have to repair the rusty bits you can't readily replace. This is really a source of spares for another one or a braaaave restoration. But it is a real shame to see one like this - the E3's were such a great car and a lot better than the big ugly shed that BMW replaced it with. |
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Drew540i
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Posted: 27-April-2006 at 11:41 | |
You HERO!! I'm glad somebody is! I had a 3.0S saloon about 6 years ago, in that lovely metallic Tundra green that looks a bit like Boston or Oxford green. I bought it for £100 from the estate of the one and only owner, a Farmer from Oop North. The registration was PGN 34L and there is another 2500 doing the rounds which is PGN33L - it turns out that BMW UK in Brentwood registered a whole batch of 'PGN-L' cars together. Condition wise mine was a bit grim although it looked mint from 10 feet. The interior (dark tan leather) was absolutely perfect because it had woolly seat covers and floor mats from new. It also had a complete new BMW exhaust and had been fitted with new wings 2 years before. Sadly though the MOT welding to which the poor thing had been subjected was shocking - just welding over the rust. As a result even the patches were rotting - I just *cough*cough* fibreglassed over the worst bits, gave the underside a good coating of underseal and scraped it through an MOT. I also replaced the steel and flexy brake pipes and freed off the calipers and thanks to free road tax (the car was built in November 1972) I used it through the summer of 2000 and went on holiday in Newquay with it. It had only done 60'000 miles so the engine and running gear were perfect. It drove like a fast Mark 1 Granada but with vastly better build quality. I sold it in 2000 for £350 to a bloke in Reading who wanted the wings and interior for a structurally good but scruffy example. Sadly it was too rotten underneath to save. I still have the original rear number plate! If anyone here should own it, the plate is yours! |
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PaulS
Really Senior Member II East Anglia BMWCC Regional Chairman Joined: 03-July-2004 Location: Aylsham, Norfolk Status: Offline Points: 2516 |
Posted: 27-April-2006 at 12:16 | |
I quite agree Andy, and stand corrected! I absolutely love it and wish I had that sort of money. Looks like the reserve is about £10K-11K as it's at £9300 not met reserve. Paul |
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AndyS
Really Senior Member II The Last of the Few Joined: 21-August-2003 Location: 55 � North Status: Offline Points: 1365 |
Posted: 27-April-2006 at 16:17 | |
I must admit, I subscribe to Drews point of view - older BMW's are much more desirable & interesting than the modern stuff.
Whilst without doubt an E90 3-series is much more user friendly than an E30 it just doesn't grab the heart like the older model. Same with the E34/E39. When people all over the country are sweating over saving common-as-muck MGB's it seems a travesty that fine old cars like E3's are viewed as landfill. I keep promising myself I'll do a welding course at nightclass & save myself a CS coupe! |
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Drew540i
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Posted: 27-April-2006 at 16:21 | |
Best in the country my ****!
NO WAY is that a 9 grand car! Wrong colour, horrible wheels, red calipers, alcantara retrim [:Thumbs Down_I:] plus a horrible engine bay - what's all that matt black paint about? In the pics it looks like £3000 worth no matter how nice it is. Sorry, but £9000 buys a very decent CSL and a much nicer CS Coupe than that. For example the Turkis green CSi of Graham Lynch (BMW38L) was what I would call a proper example - concours winning, perfect condition and original spec and colour. That sold for £9000 and is the best one I've ever seen (and I've seen lots!) |
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DavesOldBMs
Newbie Joined: 28-February-2006 Status: Offline Points: 18 |
Posted: 28-April-2006 at 05:11 | |
I agree that it is not the best CS in the country but I do feel they are underpriced compared to what some of the classic Jags and Mercs fetch. The CSL for £9000 sounds a bergin as they usually fetch over that. Its funny you mention the E3 2500 PGN33L as I have got that, basically for spares as the engine is seized. The 3.3 would be a big restoration and would cost more to restore then you can buy one for (I know this with my E9). However finding a 3.3LIA would be difficult. Also you should restore a car as a hobby and for the enjoyment not to make money and at the end of the day you can have a car exactly as you want it.
Well my E3 3.0SI will start to be restored later this year when I have finished the E12 M535 I am working on at the moment.
Cheers Dave www.m535i.co.uk |
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