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    Posted: 26-May-2006 at 08:17
Anyone know what modern(ish) engine fits into E9, with least amount of
tinkering, as I want to rebuild mine over the next year but keep the car
running?
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-other M30s will fit (think E12, E28, E24, E34, E32 etc 2.8 to 3.5l cars),

BUT engine mounts, exhaust flanges, and camshaft drives (to name but few) vary considerably, as well as the obvious stuff like t.stat housings and the like.  My guess would be an L-jet engine ( most E12s,E28 2.8s etc) would be the next best thing after a direct swap for an E9 engine, but I'm willing to bet someone knows better than I do.

BTW total BMW did an M30 engine feature a couple of months ago, worth a look.

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Points: 232 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 16:29

Hi Dickie

www.e9coupe.com technical sections has a whole lot of Info.

Brucey is correct in saying that there are engine mount differences but your best bet is the E28 535, E24 prior to 86 I gather.Anyway, there is a wealth of info on that and also www.seniorsixregistry.com

When are you going to post some pics??

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Points: 1259 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 18:00

I would agree with the above, but would recomend an engine from an e12 5 series M535i or E24 six series post 1982. You can go with a these and they will bolt in fairly easily with almost no modification required as the E12 and CS chassi is basically the same.

However if you are clever enough you can fit alomst anything into a car.

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Thanks for all the tips fellows, most appreciated. My next door neighbour
has an M535i so I shall wait for it to get dark and perform minor surgery.
Thanks for the e9coupe.com site tip Dax, spent too long on it last night,
luckily I have an understanding wife. So understanding in fact that she
has said I don't have to sell the car when we have our first child due in
August. Result, just don't tell the in-laws.
Am trying to figure out how to put some images of the motor but am
having tech difficulties.
Thaks again
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Hey Dickie,

 

where abouts are you and the csl located? Have you had it long? Which chassis number is it?

 

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Damn Rohan I've just noticed you've got two of them. Lucky man.
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A delightful part of East London known as Hackney (apparently it's on the up
Olympics and all that).
Had it about 5 years and need to make it run better, vacumn problem I
think.
Will put some images up tomorrow if I can figure out which finger I use to
turn the computer on.

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Hi Dickie,Baby seats go well with an E9 such as the CSL, it already has the seat belt mounting holes installed and as it does'nt have airbags,definitely safer for baby!

As for the posting, if you register with a site such as e9coupe.com or http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/events.php it makes things easier

( Just go to picture Gallery and follow instructions)and then use the insert image or cut and paste here.

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Dickie,

Long time no speak.  Congratulations on the nipper news, and even more congratulations that you can keep the car (!).  Echo comments re baby seats in an E9.  I dragged both my children round in mine when they were in baby seats and then boosters.  The back seats are then perfect for "small people" (my son is 10 and my daughter is 7).

As others have said there are a whole load of M30s that will fit with varying degrees of hassle into your car.  It's a shame you can't pinpoint the running problem before you start chopping and changing though.  Either way, keeping the car running is a must, otherwise life takes over, and before you know it, the car will have been off the road for years and be beyond it.

Good luck, and don't forget people are willing to help where they can.

 
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Hey Sam
How you doing? Began the removal process this weekend (the easy part)
fingers crossed. My engine has never run correctly so nows the time to do
something about it. Have located an E28 M535i so watch this space.
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An even better idea? Forget the old 3003cc engine
you have. I would rebuild a Motronic 3.2 engine
(732i), convert it to a distributor, fit this and store the
old CSL engine away somewhere. Use the old D Jet
from the CSL but you could probably raise the fuel
pressure a bit. The 3210cc engine was really sweet
but you might struggle to find one these days. I threw
away a prefect 732i short engine with absolutely zero
bore wear because nobody wanted it.

AAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!
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Tell me about it, Drew,I have a very good 3.3 block with the special Crank out of my 3.3L E3 but as I live in the sticks!! and I dont have much storage!
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M535i purchased yeterday with an engine that feels as strong as an ox.
My neighbour drove me down in his red 535i so returning to town in a
convoy with two faded red M535i's travelling at high velocity must have
looked quite a sight. Dog leg 5 speed as well so fingers crossed that will
fit.
Watch this space, images to come.
May the force be with me.

Small question: My hanes bible says that on the E9 you cannot take the
engine out with the gearbox still attached, is this true or will they come
out together??
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Points: 447 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-June-2006 at 20:16

Difficult. 

Almost better to make some kind of a sling arrangement and lift the shell itself from the chassis legs and separate it from the subframe here and at the strutt tops.  With water, petrol, guibo, exhaust & electricals disconnected you get the engine and gearbox mounted on the subframe too, and literally lift the car off it.

If you are planning to rebuild the motor anyway though, I'd take the head off and the gearbox.  You have just the three averagely heavy lumps to deal with then, rather than one enormously heavy one.

A thousand ways to skin the proverbial cat.......
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Originally posted by dickiecsl dickiecsl wrote:

Thanks for all the tips fellows, most appreciated. My next door neighbour
has an M535i so I shall wait for it to get dark and perform minor surgery.
Thanks for the e9coupe.com site tip Dax, spent too long on it last night,
luckily I have an understanding wife. So understanding in fact that she
has said I don't have to sell the car when we have our first child due in
August. Result, just don't tell the in-laws.
Am trying to figure out how to put some images of the motor but am
having tech difficulties.
Thaks again
Dickie

 

Dickie, email me the pics of the car, and i'll get them upon the site, you can link them from there.

www.335itc.co.uk.

looking fora few more rare ones to get up there.
www.335itc.co.uk
Its gonna be finished for summer!!! thats the plan!!!
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