Your chance to own....

From the welding required to it you might be better offering it to Fred Flintstone!!!

popeye

Better to have loved and lost, than to be stuck with the psycho for the rest of your life!

Bigian wrote: Why get it resprayed when the money could have be used to get some of welding done....

To make it look nice and shiny and entice someone to pay the asking price without looking too much further??

Bigian wrote: the price tag  you prob spend that again fixing it up

Once you get to the stage that the floors, sills and inners need repairing, the wings must either have been done or need doing.  In the same way that there used to be only two types of MGB - those with sills done and those with sills needing doing, there are now only two types of six - wings replaced or wings needing replaced.  On the basis that there's no mention of them being done in the advert and the photos (carefully?) don't show them, I think we can assume they and probably the inners too, need done.

Looking at the list of work that he's admitting to and knowing what you're likely to find once you start - I can send you photos of my outwardly respectable and apparently unmolested '89 car disassembled if you're of a strong disposition - while you might get it MoT'd for the asking price, I doubt you'd get much change out of £7500 to do it all *properly*.  Add that to the asking price and while this is a very rare and desireable car, it must be border line unless you have the necessary bodywork and fabrication skills (no sill panels being available) to do it yourself.  I've seen a very tidy, but not perfect '89 car and its £10,000 body restoration bills and I'm scared to count what mine is costing at the moment, so lovely car though it could be, it's likely to remain unsold at that price in my view. 

At least he hasn't "fannied" it through an M.o.T. in order to sell it and it appears honestly enough described.

Brucey wrote: doesn't really float my boat to be honest. Not when it is that rotten... especially not when it is that money.... blimey.... he's having a laugh isn't he??

Now that is what I hoped you'd notice......

Right now on Cambridge there is a very clean early 1987 635CSi manual for 3500GBP on autotrader (no affiliation). This has improved brakes over earlier models and if its the one I'm thinking of it has been cherished, not allowed to corrode horribly. Better value, even with the horrible metric wheels fitted.....

Is that the zinnobar red one which I passed going the other way after the "rolling road" morning when I went into Cambridge to collect a racing saddle? The car was festooned with club/RAC/AA badges on the front, and there was - and I'm totally serious about this - an oul fella in a flat cap piloting it. In the brief moment that it took me to drive by, it looked absolutely spotless.

He actually did a double-take when he saw me going the other way!!

m3Cecotto wrote: I've seen a very tidy, but not perfect '89 car and its £10,000 body restoration bills and I'm scared to count what mine is costing at the moment

That's the trouble with the Six - restoration costs far out-weigh the finished articles value. The E9 CS coupe is in a similar position.

MG's & the like are constantly being restored because you can get every last item fairly cheaply & when it's all done at least you'll be guaranteed a decent return on your investment. With a Six you can spend a fortune bringing it up to scatch but when you try to sell it people don't want to spend more than £5000 for a "mint" example.

I've just found myself approaching the "New Wings or Repair" crossroads & I'm trying to be philosophical about it but it must be very disheartening to be faced with a £1200+ bill when your car's only worth £3000.

AndyS wrote: Horsetan wrote: He actually did a double-take when he saw me going the other way!! It must have been that hat!

You're not going to drop this, are you?

It probably is the one you saw, Ivan.

But the Alpina? I mean what are you buying?

I reckon its

about £300 quids worth of MOT failed old BMW

about £500 worth of tuning goodies (that might not be any good any more)

some wheels, £??

-some badges, £??

how does this come to £3500???

People always ask me re my csl "Where can I get a set of those wheels?" - here's where! (Almost, as they are the later version with the flat centre disc).

I think it is really sad, but this beautiful car is, commercially speaking, a breaker.  Decent wheels, nice interior and the Alpina bits.  As i recall we're talking ported head, different cam and ECU and a nice manifold.  At that mileage it would probably need the head rebuilt in any case, but at least you have it all there to start with.  Otherwise, it's a bag of trouble.  If you can weld and paint yourself, then the parts wouldn't be too daunting, but that excludes most of us I'm afraid.

I remember at the beginning of the 80's there were CS coupes all over the place for peanuts. These are cars which have slipped from the dizzy heights where they started out, and are now just classy bangers which cost a lot to get right.  I am afraid that we will just keep losing them to scrap till there are few enough to match the number of real enthusiasts who really want one, and don't need to feel there is necessarily a financial gain at the end of the tunnel.  Sadly, that is a long way off yet.

I reckon this car would be fine in a "reverse auction", starting at 3500 and ending around 1500, but as it stands, common sense would say he's up for a disappointment.

You've got to admit though, a bit like the soft focus pics that frumps submit to dating agencies, the car does look nice in those eBay pictures!  How would you feel the next morning though?

I agree with you there Andy, think Sams CSL is stunning!! Last time I saw one was at Donnington in 2003 and would love to see another one in the flesh again!

Paul

Horsetan wrote: AndyS wrote: .....(please, no arguments about the Stags shortcomings).... Triumph, 3-litre V8, overheating... hahahahahahahaha

BMW M20 overheating, cracked heads

BMW M30 overheating, cracked heads

BMW M40 cambelt & cam

BMW M52, M60 Nikasil

BMW S50 Vanos etc. etc.

We all have a cross to bear . . .

I intend to be at Gaydon too on the (Real) North East stand.

See you there.