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Dergside
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-May-2004 Location: Mid West, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4000 |
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Jeff Most club committee's are there because most people are happy enough to let other people handle those matters and as such inertia is generally the order of the day. I don't know the details, but I'd imagine that there have been few changes on the committee in recent years and most of the committee and officer post elections have returned the incumbents unopposed. If there is a body of deadwood there or if members feel that the committee don't represent their views then the membership CAN do something about it. It may take some time, because only a portion of the posts are required to retire each year, but it can happen if people feel strongly enough about voicing their concerns about how things are happening. If the leadership is running a homely little club for themselves then they are allowed to by a membership that doesn't turn up for the agm, etc. (I include myself in that group). They will likely continue until the members gather themselves together and claim it back. |
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Fushion Julz
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That is a joke, isn't it? Someone tell me it is!
a) NEVER give anyone your password...I know it's only a forum, but if they are storing details of passwords in a database alongside name, address, club membership number, etc, then perhaps your credit card details or bank account are in that database, too! b) Ladies only....That is illegal...sex discrimination act, unless they have a men only forum, too. c) Why real names only? Personally, I have no issues (Julz is my name...well Julian, actually), butwhy is it OK for "Avon" to use a nick and no one else? I do know some folk who just prefer to be anonymous on the 'net...perhaps because of their position at work or in public life... However, although I suspect I won't be signing up to the forum, I am (for now) remaining a club member...I want to be able to have a chat to Andrew and Jeff as an equal standing member with equal voting rights...Personally, I don't particularly want to be a director or a chairman..I don't really have the time! However, if the reason that Jeff and Andrew are on the board is because no one contested the position, then I may just do that...I didn't vote for either of them. Partly because I was unaware of the AGM until it was too late to arrange to be there (postage issues, apparantly), an partly because there is no facility for postal or proxy voting...That is just wrong IMHO.... |
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1996 E36 328i SE 4dr (Manual) 1992 E34 525iX Touring...SOLD |
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Jeff Spangle
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Changing the club from within is an almost impossible task, the chairman has surrounded himself with his posse and as such is somewhat protected.
I will be very interested to see what happens at Gaydon later this month, if he decides to turn up. |
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Dergside
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-May-2004 Location: Mid West, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4000 |
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Steven You are right, people shouldn't give up on their membership as a result of what has happened but there are strong feelings about it. Even KB has said that he is remaining as a member. However, there is definitely a sentiment here that people are amused (and maybe angered in equal measure) by the game being played by members of the committee and the setting up of the new club forum as it stands looks somewhat like shooting themselves in the foot. You are right, if members of the club are unhappy with the way in which the club is being run then there are two ways to deal with it, either leave or look to bring about change from within. I'm definitely in the latter camp, but as I said in another thread, feelings are probably running too high to make rational decisions about what form that should take right now. As regards passwords, the key issue for anyone with passwords is privacy. Identity theft is a major problem today. This can take a number of forms, including electronic. In my own usage of services and facilities on the web I take the best care I can to protect my identity from misuse by others. Rule number one for that is to keep your passwords private. Rule number two is to avoid mailing lists like the plague. |
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kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
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just to pick up on two points of your post steven:-
1. many people (unfortunatley resue their passwords despits constant advice not to. By giving your passwrd to someone else you could be giving them access to many of your personal accounts. 2. I do not wish to be placed upon any board, never mind being made a chairman |
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steven.seed
Really Senior Member II Joined: 24-June-2005 Location: Sale, Cheshire Status: Offline Points: 1507 |
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I can't quite understand why people have such a big issue over the password business. Its only for a forum, its not like its for my bank account or something. As for there being little content on the forum this one had to start with nothing but because people use it the content built up to what it is now. It would be a sad state of affairs if people deny others the benefit of their experience because of political issues. If you support a football club just because the board and manager have issues you don't stop supporting the club. Ladies section? maybe a good idea . I like the idea of more female involvement in the forums. We all know there has been a split and not many are happy about it but the constant sniping that seems to be going on will only alienate club members. Almost as good as making this a non-members only forum. I am still an active member of the club and will remain so and would also like to continue using this forum but I'm not sure that I feel as comfortable on the forum as I used to be as I feel that any mention of the club will bring about a negative reaction. The club is not about individuals, its about all of us. Don't deny yourself membership of the club because of whats gone on. If you feel that strongly join up, go to the AGM and vote in Killian as chairman. Its in your hands but at least be positive about it. I hope that people using this forum will not put club members off using the forum because if thats the case they are no better than those they are unhappy with.
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Andrew Rolland
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Hmm I was going to join the BMW Car Club seeing as how I frequent here so often but I never did, just never got round to it but now I don't think I'll bother. Only one technical post in the 5 series bit....wonder wot thats aboot?? Andrew |
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Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series!
Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
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Jeff Spangle
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Utter rubbish.
I've never heard so much childish toys out of pram nonsense in my life. Starting up a brand new forum, saying it's open to view when quite clearly most of it is locked down, Ladies only section - FFS. I wonder what is actually in the technical sections, did they take a copy of this forum in orde to build that one? Can anyone who can be arsed to register confirm or deny that fact? Are the technical sections empty? If they are - hahahahahaha, all that knowledge gone! Jeff (Spangle, not the one who creates his own gravity) |
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Nick
Bavarian-Board Contributor BMWCC Area Organiser Yorks & Humber Joined: 21-October-2002 Location: Gods own county... Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1319 |
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Well yes they would say that.. they would also say no sticky tyres or open pit lane.. I'm afraid I bend the rules a little to make sure I get a good entry.. they are a little stricter at some of the other club trackdays |
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Nigel
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Which in itself means that anyone who had the forum saved in favourites will still get the unavailable message. Maybe they like exclusivity...don't want too many common people finding it do they ?
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kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
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I don't quite understand why they have placed their forum in a subdirectory of the site. Instead of bmwcarclubforum.co.uk it is at bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum.
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kbannon
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The info I was always given from the orifice was that it was club members only.
Farcical - isn't it? |
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Rhys
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..so do you have a snooker table and beer at 1.20 a pint? |
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Nick
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Well thats dificult to quantify.. I use my gut instinct.. I don't want you thinking of gentlemans clubs and black balls and that.. but its along those lines.. If I can be blunt.. I dont tolerate *******! I'm sure I must have said 'no' to some good ones.. but by the same token I have not had many bad'uns either.. If you are mature enough to let a less powerful car pass you and you don't bully others with aggresive driving thats pretty much it.. add to that the enjoyment of being around the rest of the gang and the willingness to take part and have fun, you are getting there.. buy some raffle tickets, applaud the winner and then stand your round in the bar afterwards, you have cracked it. Clublife mate.. its great.. its like your favourite WMC with wheels! Edited by Nigel |
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thepits
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Nick, I know it's a success, and I'm not here to knock it, but..... could you elucidate more on "the right sort" please |
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thepits
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No problem - just set it to P4ssword - no-one will ever guess that |
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Rhys
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I think it's a way to stop people using others membership names and numbers. Also they are doing it so they can verify that whoever is registering on their forum is a club member as they will check your name and club number + password against the password you give them. The password won't be used to access the forum I think its just a one off use - you use your own login for that.
Bit double dutch but I know what I meen |
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Nick
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Yes.. its still predominantly for members of the BMWCC.. the mix is about 80/20.. and I always favour members when it comes to bookings.. the economics of running a trackday in the north east dictates that you have to go outside your club to mop up the last few places.
Mine is about the only trackday you will ever go to where every entrant is briefed by the organiser (me) before the booking is taken. I get a better price at Croft because of our club status.. the commercial operators pay more. Over the last decade I like to think that I have got a good regular crew.. regulars account for more than 70% of the entry.. I like to do things my way and be in control.. like I said, if you are the right sort you are welcome. Nick |
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Dergside
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The idea of telling someone your password up front is just wrong. Working in IT, the message we drill in to users is to never share your password. I won't be registering any time soon!
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thepits
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Oh, good - I was a bit confused because you wrote: -
So members of what/who exactly? |
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