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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-October-2003 at 07:54
Ok back to the original subject line:-

318is:- Nippy, not very fast! But handle VERY well, brakes are good, suspension even better Economy in mine averages 37mpg...

323i:- Only made for two years 85/86, tons of torque, no LSD means sideways action just when you don't expect it... I owned one for 5 years, used to average 29mpg. In standard form it was quicker than may mates Series II Rs Turbo! Watch for rust, rust and more rust...

325i:- Cheaper than a M3... but still pull like a train. Economy 23mpg, heads crack, brakes can be a bit iffy if pushed too hard, but engine makes a lovely noise when pushed. Good fun!

Overall if your young and insurance is an issue you can't go wrong with a 318is, it will entertain you!

Auto's can be good fun too... it depends on your journey, of your sat in heavy traffic all day, then a auto is for you, as I always seem to find E30 clutches start to 'stick' and judder if your sat in traffic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-October-2003 at 17:28
get a 325i,they ripp,some nice alpina wheels and your sorted,ive got the convertible adds to the image!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-October-2003 at 17:55
for me it would be a 323 with a 3:9 diff!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-October-2003 at 18:00
by the way im actively looking for an e30 323 coupe. if anyone knows of one let me know

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-October-2003 at 20:59
Originally posted by paul325i
<P>Agree with NASCAR being mans sport, although formula one cars sound fantastic.</P>
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Agree with NASCAR being mans sport, although formula one cars sound fantastic.

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disagree.... NASCAR is the american football of racing.... lets go in circles... fun... hmm no wo

disagree.... NASCAR is the american football of racing.... lets go in circles... fun... hmm no wonder US car are crap round bends

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-October-2003 at 21:07
oops messed that one up..... im goin to see in a year what cost less to buy... insurance on the 323 is cheaper than the 318is, plus i like older e30s, and may be tempted next year to buy a nice e21, unless anyone here wants to tell me a big problem with them? 325i too expensive e30 m3 out of the question, im 19 for god sakes
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-October-2003 at 11:36
I've got a 325i convertible and wouldn't swap it for anything else.  Tried a 318i lux first but performance is everything.  I know insurance can be a killer but seeing as the 318is is group 13 ish, the 323 and the 325i are group 15ish , personally, I'd go for the 325i and work overtime if I had to!    Plus there are probably more 325i's to choose from.   As to manual over automatic, not sure, still trying to get my brov-in-law to swap his 535i sport auto for the day, just for research purposes of course!!!  I wouldn't take it anywhere near a race track, honest! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-October-2003 at 12:53
Must say, I had the same reservations about autos as most but since buying my 1990 switchable 325 Sport I have changed my mind! It soooo easy to drive (and you loose the typical clutch judder higher mileage E30's) and goes like stink.

I am also lucky enough to have a 1991 320iSE manual which is fantastically responsive with the right mods. I have changed the airflow meter, have fitted a K & N panel filter, FSE boost valve and a Scorpion exhaust. The car is fantastic to drive and really does go.

If my sport was a manual I would be more content, but am not going to complain about the auto.

Obviously, the 325 sport is quicker but the fun in the 320 manual is more satisfying.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-October-2003 at 18:47
is it worth me lookin at a 320 then? eamo is persuading me otherwise with the 323i, since it isnt that much more insurance as opposed to my 318i, hmm.... and cant you fit the limited slip diff to them anyway? if you find a 325 at a breakers?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-October-2003 at 18:56
Some of the 323i's had a LSD, but if you were to find a decent 323i i would buy it with or without the LSD. You would be able to fit one later if you wanted, at a cost!

Can't comment about the 320i performance, never driven one! as a sub-note, the 318is is quicker than the 320i...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-October-2003 at 19:22

As most are saying get a 325i but I would deffo go for the sport. Ive had a 325 se and a sport. No difference in performance really but they are a much better car overall. Very smooth and look great with 17" Alpinas on them.

You can get a mint one for £3k and they wont drop much.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2003 at 13:52
cant afford a 325, not for a few years at least
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-October-2003 at 18:43

Why how old are you?? Is it the insurance cost or the cost to buy. It is pointless to get a 323 might aswell get 320 but then again keep what you got until you can afford to get 325 sport or E30 M3.

Im sure insurance aint that bad, I had two 325s ( se and a sport) when I was 19 and it only cost me £600

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2003 at 15:40

Originally posted by Mark R Mark R wrote:

 

Can't comment about the 320i performance, never driven one! as a sub-note, the 318is is quicker than the 320i...

The 318is may be slightly quicker, but they don't sound anywhere near as nice as a 320i. I heard a 318is the other day and they sound like any other 4 cylinder car. To me the sound of the engine is very important, if doesn't sound nice then I'm not interested.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2003 at 16:52
Originally posted by dannywig dannywig wrote:

Originally posted by Mark R Mark R wrote:

 

Can't comment about the 320i performance, never driven one! as a sub-note, the 318is is quicker than the 320i...


The 318is may be slightly quicker, but they don't sound anywhere near as nice as a 320i. I heard a 318is the other day and they sound like any other 4 cylinder car. To me the sound of the engine is very important, if doesn't sound nice then I'm not interested.



Your right my 318is doesn't sound anything like a decent 6 pot, I miss my 323i for that exact reason! as well as the extra power / torque...

My next BM will be a 6 pot!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2003 at 18:01

I always thought the six pot sound was the best ever but then got me a M3 E30. To listen to that with the revs going up past 7,000 it sounds ace.

Ive had two 325s and they dont like being redlined until E36 24 valver came out. (My opinion anyway)

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-October-2003 at 21:32
Originally posted by paul325i paul325i wrote:

Formula one cars are auto?  Whats the paddle shift for then?


Agree with NASCAR being mans sport, although formula one cars sound fantastic.



OK - you asked for it! The paddle shift is there IF the driver wants to OVER-RIDE the automatic computer map for gear-changes for the circuit. And for the pit-stops, and if (When!) he spins... So its an OVER-RIDE for the automatic gear changes - got that?

If you like Nascar, come to Rockingham for the ASCAR, no Auto's allowed there!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The 2 seater Minardis at Rockingham recently were exellent The noise alone was better (and louder)than 20 odd ASCAR racers!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-October-2003 at 20:32

i am 19 nearly 20 and it cost me 1550 TPFT (the cheapest i could get) for my c reg 318i valued at £900 (its probably could get £1000 for it since its completely original with FSH (BMW up to 1999), good alloys, leather, aircon, new tyres new battery with a small amount of rust (cosmetic). the engine is mint with no smoke at all, and the drive train is mint too.... (apart from needing some new axle bushes i think.... slight knock when i lift my foot off clutch when i change gear, and its pretty simple if i have the tools yeah?) anyway, i have only seen a handful of e30s looking better than mine since ive had it (bear in mind i havent been to any shows)

 

id rather have bettr mpg than better sound..... mine sounds better than a normal 4 pot simply because its a BMW, and thats the old M10 engine!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-October-2003 at 11:50
just bought the E30 318is, very pleased so far, but its my first beemer so I dont have much to bench mark it against!, back end gets out nicely and it feels as quick as my 130 bhp rs1600i (mk 3 escort)
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