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    Posted: 26-January-2007 at 16:04
I hope this dosn't get taken in the wrong way...


It seems in recent months the site has become the domain of 'moderator disease' it just seems the site is becoming a bit 'nanny like'. We never really had this problem before, just wondering if there is a new agenda or not? correcting peoples spelling mistakes is taking things too far, don't you think?

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The moderators do an excellent job of keeping this forum from being a free for all.

If by "nanny like" you mean blocking racist, sexist and otherwise abusive posts, I would hate to to see the type of material you would want on this site.

The moderators have a duty to protect people from such material and should be supported in that function.

Regarding spelling mistakes if a moderator corrected a spelling mistake of mine, I would thank them. For most of us on this forum English is our first language, so we should be proud of our language and education and present the best image possible to the rest of the world.

Sadly, some of the non typographical errors show worrying weakness in the English language education systems. For example the numbur of times I have seen there/their and to/too wrongly used has surprised me.

In conclusion, give the moderators credit for the work they do, that we regular forums members do not see, keeping this site safe for all users 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-January-2007 at 18:16

Thanks for your support Gerard

There is no agenda, we just try to keep the forum happy and suitable for all to view.

If I have a comment to make, there has been a substantial increase in the amount of unnecessary bad language being used (and that includes making up words with numbers and characters to represent filtered words). This is maybe what you're seeing edited - removal of these.






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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rhys Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-January-2007 at 18:29
Personally I leave spelling alone - as it's the content of the post that is important. Some on here are dyslexic in one form or another. To me correcting people spelling  is a bit nitpicking. My opinion.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 215DMX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-January-2007 at 18:30
Please Gerard... I think you are jumping to conclusions here.

You say

"If by "nanny like" you mean blocking racist, sexist and otherwise abusive posts, I would hate to to see the type of material you would want on this site."


Where did I say i would like to see "racist, sexist and otherwise abusive posts" The way you have suggested that I would, is in all honesty is quite offensive.


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p.s. I don't think it's a good idea for me to respond to any more posts as I'm sure somebody is going to take it personally, and that was never my intention.


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Dave what other conclusion could I come to, you used the vague term "nanny-like". If you had been clearer with your first post, instead of hiding it in innuendo, there would have been no confusion 

Where in the past I requested Moderators to act on posts. It has been because of the reasons above, and the moderators have acted promptly.

And I honestly believe the only reason that moderators have to act is for those reasons

Now Dave can you give an example of this excess moderating, instead of turning your back on what you just started.

The strength of this forum is the control that kept it safe for all people to participate.

Dave this is not personal against you, but a lot of "persons" have broke their back making this forum a success

PS to Rhys "people's spelling"  Now that was a tasty nit.

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Originally posted by nero nero wrote:

Thanks for your support Gerard

There is no agenda, we just try to keep the forum happy and suitable for all to view.

If I have a comment to make, there has been a substantial increase in the amount of unnecessary bad language being used (and that includes making up words with numbers and characters to represent filtered words). This is maybe what you're seeing edited - removal of these.

What he said ...... this forum is for ALL to view, I will continue to edit the unnecessary bad language - especially those "disguised" behind numbers and letters.

 

However, I will admit I have been accused of a being a pedant as far as grammar and spelling is concerned, and in the past I have corrected the most glaring errors.

I have realised that this is totally pointless exercise and have ceased the thankless task!  

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<P>However, I will admit I have been accused of a being a pedant as far as grammar and spelling is concerned, and in the past I have corrected the most glaring errors.</P>
<P>I have realised that this is totally pointless exercise and have ceased the thankless task! <IMG src=smileys/biggrin.gif border=0> </P>
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However, I will admit I have been accused of a being a pedant as far as grammar and spelling is concerned, and in the past I have corrected the most glaring errors.

I have realised that this is totally pointless exercise and have ceased the thankless task!  

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You could have driven yourself into hospital trying to do that. We all do "typos". But the amount of bad grammer and spelling is frightening.

You could have driven yourself into hospital trying to do that. We all do "typos". But the amount of bad grammer and spelling is frightening.

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Originally posted by gjoconnor92 gjoconnor92 wrote:

You could have driven yourself into hospital trying to do that. We all do "typos". But the amount of bad grammer and spelling is frightening.

Yes, that's why I gave up!

 

(I would say who I blame, but could be accused of being political)

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Originally posted by gjoconnor92 gjoconnor92 wrote:

Sadly, some of the non typographical errors show worrying weakness in the English language education systems. For example the numbur of times I have seen there/their and to/too wrongly used has surprised me.

you were saying...

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Originally posted by Rossi Rossi wrote:

Originally posted by gjoconnor92 gjoconnor92 wrote:

Sadly, some of the non typographical errors show worrying weakness in the English language education systems. For example the numbur of times I have seen there/their and to/too wrongly used has surprised me.

you were saying...

I was going to try and say it was a deliberate error to see who would spot it. But in present company I thought better not



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The numbers 53 are being used before "ar" to get past filter

and oo and 00 instead of uc are another example

But unfortunately as fast you can update the filters the desparately illiterate will come up with something new.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rossi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-January-2007 at 14:19

Aside from the main topic, I think text messaging abbreviations have a lot to do with this using devolved combinations of letters and numbers to bypass filters, as pointed out by jcoconnor92.

Maybe a new ruling is required, outlawing these types of abbreviations? Who knows, some may even get educated here on this forum. After all, it is a public forum and not a 'text message centre'. IMO

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jack735 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-January-2007 at 14:45

I think there should be a dictionary of regularly used abrev. somewhere.  Not everyone, particularly us older folk, know whats being said.

As for swearing I think, unfortunately, this has become a part of standard English. Sometimes being able to write something down on a forum like this vents the spleen sufficiently enough to save some rotten mechanic from being murdered thereby keeping a number of contributing members out of jail!!!

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Originally posted by Rossi Rossi wrote:

Aside from the main topic, I think text messaging abbreviations have a lot to do with this using devolved combinations of letters and numbers to bypass filters, as pointed out by jcoconnor92.

Maybe a new ruling is required, outlawing these types of abbreviations? Who knows, some may even get educated here on this forum. After all, it is a public forum and not a 'text message centre'. IMO

[back on main topic]

 

 

I pointed out over two years ago that "text" phone abbreviations were being use here way to much & got "shot down in flames "  !!! & told to "Drag myself into the 21st Century" ( i use text slang on my phone myself simply for speed )

It is a forum that we all share & if you have a point to make it should be clear to all not only those of us that have "Dragged our selfs into the 21st Century " 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nigel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-January-2007 at 16:25

Shorty

If you remember correctly I didn't shoot you down in flames, I agreed with you, and upset a good many people stamping on this form of writing.

I haven't had so much time to spend on here lately, but I will start to deal with this again, and the swear words, no matter how they are spelt, I'll start suspending again after the normal warnings have been issued.

Now...wait for the complaints.

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Originally posted by Nigel Nigel wrote:

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If you remember correctly I didn't shoot you down in flames, I agreed with you, and upset a good many people stamping on this form of writing.

I haven't had so much time to spend on here lately, but I will start to deal with this again, and the swear words, no matter how they are spelt, I'll start suspending again after the normal warnings have been issued.

Now...wait for the complaints.

Hi Nigel , i didn't mean you as you were my main supporter

These people who it applies to know who they are ( no names , no pack drill !!! ) others said it is a free forum ( which it is ) but my main point then & now is why post a topic / observation / try to help someone with a problem if they cant decipher the answer ?? 

Glad to see our campaign go's on Nigel !!!!

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or is that goes on ? lol lol lol lol, pleasure Shorty, as always

 

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