One for Nigel... |
Post Reply | Page 12> |
Author | |||||
kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Posted: 21-February-2007 at 09:11 |
||||
http://www.ash.ie/News/Latest_News/ASH_call_for_Smoking_Ban. html
|
|||||
Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor
Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |
|||||
Sponsored Links | |||||
Fey!
Bavarian-Board Contributor Funs over, Scotty; beam down my clothes! Joined: 28-February-2005 Location: Galway Status: Offline Points: 4161 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
E$%£"^%^&"%£!"$!"^%£^*&%$$!"%^£$"&%£"!!! I agreed with the smoking ban in public buildings, but this is really extracting the urine. Next I won't be able to smoke in my own house (you can't if you have someone working in your house with the way the law currently stands). Thinking about texting the guy above. Edited by Fey! |
|||||
kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
I do think anyone smoking in a confined space when children are present should be castrated and the kids taken away!
|
|||||
Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor
Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |
|||||
Fey!
Bavarian-Board Contributor Funs over, Scotty; beam down my clothes! Joined: 28-February-2005 Location: Galway Status: Offline Points: 4161 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
I don't have kids, and I don't smoke around other peoples rugrats. I also don't attempt to light up in other peoples cars/homes unless invited to.
|
|||||
Peter Fenwick
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 27-August-2003 Location: Lost somewhere in time... Status: Offline Points: 6484 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
LOL I'm glad I quit smoking. Next they'll be stopping people smoking in the house if they have kids I don't agree with it but it is going to wind a lot of people up |
|||||
Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel.
|
|||||
dryle
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2006 Location: Enfield. Status: Offline Points: 1348 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
it was on the last word on today fm that they were thinking of campaigning for people to ban smoking in their homes. with regard to ash statement that ireland were the first to ban smoking in public places it was actually guilliani in new york at least 4 yrs ago. michael martin jumped on the band wagen. smaking is banned in my house if the father in law wants to smoke he goes outside, i have the odd cigar and smoked inside once and said never again the next morning. i go outside my own home for a cigar. |
|||||
Dave Ryle
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -- George Bernard Shaw |
|||||
Mick525i
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 29-November-2005 Location: Dublin Ireland. Status: Offline Points: 1823 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
Agreed |
|||||
Cheers
Mick BMW E21 318 1980 BMW E39 525i 2002 MTech VW Golf Gti 2003 |
|||||
flyingalexf68
Really Senior Member II Joined: 01-April-2006 Location: 53°19’59,6°14’56 Status: Offline Points: 2581 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
The New York smoking ban was nowhere near as comprehensive as the one
in Ireland. I think there was one in Torronto a few years back too. The ban in Ireland is a 'workplace ban'. Nobody can smoke ANYWHERE people are working (except outside). Not just bars and restaurants. It really works and I have no doubt it will be introduced in the UK soon. I really don't agree with banning smoking in private places including your own car or house, (Smoking IS banned in company cars and work vans during working hours), just because its a civil liberty type of argument. |
|||||
1995 e36 3.0 M3 Coupe, Daytona Violet, AP Racing BBK, CCFL Angel Eyes, M3 Spoiler, M-Tec 3 Steering Wheel.
2000 530d Steptronic, Poverty Spec, 18" Alloys. |
|||||
dryle
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2006 Location: Enfield. Status: Offline Points: 1348 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
it was a near total ban < =text/>Bureau of Tobacco ControlSmoke-Free Air Act of 2002The Smoke Free Air Act (SFAA) of 2002 protects the health of New York City workers against the harmful effects of second-hand smoke by making virtually all workplaces smoke-free. |
|||||
Dave Ryle
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -- George Bernard Shaw |
|||||
Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
The first place I encountered this non smoking crap was Canada, in the early 90's. I remember that for some reason my flight was changed from BA to Air Canada or whatever, my ticket still said business class smoking, and after take off, once the lights went out, I lit up....trolley dollies appeared from everywhere....it was the first and last time I've ever used that airline, although your banned on all flights now except the airlines where the planes don't have mot's. I had the same experience in the first bar I went to in Toronto. I've been spoken to in the states for smoking whilst walking within 20 yards of a public building, in some states you can smoke whilst driving but you can't light it !, and I think it was Sweeden, years ago I was pulled by a traffic cop, over there you can't smoke in the front of a car in case the red end reflects in the windscreen and confuses the driver....even if you are the driver and promise not to be confused by it The smoking ban is in active in Scotland, Wales next month, and England in July.....but its just been overturned in the EU parliament....because they wouldn't stick to it. It will also still be allowed in the house of commons. It has been reported on radio four that English councils are spending £20,000,000 on inspectors. Its getting out of hand, but I'll still be smoking at work, and I'll continue to smoke in my car...regardless.
.
|
|||||
Best Wishes
Nigel |
|||||
Rossi
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 07-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 3311 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
I only smoke in other peoples cars but, not my own.. |
|||||
Peter Fenwick
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 27-August-2003 Location: Lost somewhere in time... Status: Offline Points: 6484 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
One law for us one law for them...
A bit excessive IMO. They don't have Drink drive inspectsors and I bet that kills a lot more people than passive smoking.
I not a fan of smoking but I agree it is going a little bit too far now.
Careful Nigel, you wouldn't want to end up in trouble with the law...
Edited by Peter Fenwick |
|||||
Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel.
|
|||||
Peter Fenwick
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 27-August-2003 Location: Lost somewhere in time... Status: Offline Points: 6484 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
If you are going to start punishing parents for doing things that may harm their childrens health you would have to do the same to parents who let their children become over weight etc. At the end of the day you can't enforce good parenting. I don't like it when I see parents smoking all over their kids in cars so in principle I would agree with you but in practive it would be a slippery slope to a total nanny state. Edited by Peter Fenwick |
|||||
Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel.
|
|||||
dryle
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2006 Location: Enfield. Status: Offline Points: 1348 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
with regard to childerns becoming overweight there are two side to look at it
in relation to parents smoking in front of their childern well that is despicable as they see the parents smoking and think it is ok. my father was gven a year to live before i was born as they took one lung out and told him to stop smoking, he didnt but lived until i was 11, they didnt tell him if he kept smoking he would die because telling him that probably would have killed him |
|||||
Dave Ryle
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -- George Bernard Shaw |
|||||
geriv
Senior Member II ^^^ what’s going on???! Joined: 22-March-2006 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 164 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
Regarding the smoking in public places - i really wish some other European countries would catch up a bit! Had a mini break in Berlin couple of weeks ago and went to really nice restaurant for a meal, it was packed with every table full and yes, two guys decided to light up and smoke cigars right in the middle while loads of us were eating! disgusting! and despite complaints just got a shrug of the shoulders, was so cold as well there were no windows etc open for ventilation, yuk! Went to see a game at the Nou Camp last october and an old bloke sitting right in front of us decided to smoke a cigar in the middle of the match, great!! could hardly see the bloody footie for the smoke!! Hope they do make a few changes in these places cos it's a mighty shock to have to put up with it when we've got used to how things are over here! |
|||||
dryle
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2006 Location: Enfield. Status: Offline Points: 1348 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
we were in paris many moons ago and went into a restaurant no non smoking section in there but there was no problem with it affecting us the ventilation must have been good and the ceiling was about 20ft high. now however with the rug rats we would probably avoid these places to prevent the sprogs being affected. the vitners federation wanted to allow for better ventilation systems within the bars to prevent the smoking ban but it was quashed because the publicans stingy that they are would not turn on the ventilation system to save on running costs. another plus for not going ahead with the "improved ventilation system is that most publicans would only install an extract system and with no proper means of make up air only through doors and windows which in mid winter would be closed to keep the cold out the ventilation system is damn all use. if they installed a correct system with proper supply vent to offset the extract then they would have to increase their boiler plant to heat the fresh air and propably install a chiller to cool during summer as there is a lot of air required to offset the smoking, this would increase the levels of CO2 emissions from such places, there are guidelines in CIBSE but they were not being adhered to by designers as publicans did not want to spend the money. ihtssl in relation to stadiums they should allow smoking if people want to as the law stipulates either no roof or 50% free wall, if you look at stadiums they comply with both in a way. bring a pocket fan and the next time you are at a match and someone lights up in front of you switch on the fan and that will blow the smoke out of your way. Edited by dryle |
|||||
Dave Ryle
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -- George Bernard Shaw |
|||||
Coasting
Really Senior Member II www.TOTALTORQUE.net Joined: 05-February-2005 Location: Not with the two-faced bloke. Status: Offline Points: 2125 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
As a smoker who works in Scotland, but lives in England, and drives between both....I reckon that the DMZ zone on the border, a 40ft piece of land, is a good place to stop in future. Strictly speaking, the law can't be applied there. |
|||||
Now with FREE HPI CHECK and FREE GLASSES GUIDE VALUATIONS for all members! |
|||||
billgates e30
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2005 Location: Tyne & Wear Status: Offline Points: 924 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
i'm not allowed to talk on my pohne in the car
i'm not allowed to eat an apple or have my macdonalds drink to mouth and get fined etc and yet i can pick up a pack of fags, get one out, find my lighter, light up, constantly drive with one hand on the wheel as i deliver a cancer stick to my mouth, and then trow it out of the window littering the verge and yet, this is not illegal |
|||||
Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
Throwing it out of the car littering the verge is illegal, and to be honest so is smoking it if it can be shown that doing so is affecting your driving :
see it mentions smoking....so stop whinging |
|||||
Best Wishes
Nigel |
|||||
billgates e30
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2005 Location: Tyne & Wear Status: Offline Points: 924 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||||
i am not whinging as such, i just feel (as a non smoker) that everyone jumps upon mobile phone users (and rightly so when hands free is so cheap these days)
and smokers seem to get no press attention anyone remember that story years ago where it got all blown out of proportion when a woman was "apparently" persued buy a police heicopter for eating an apple whislt driving (i know this was ridiculous and all expanded upon by the media........bless them) but all the same, what differece was it too the millions of people applying thier lippy in the rear view mirror or lighting a tab on thier way to work, not much, and yet it caries a very similar distractance rate as eating/talking on a mobile?? |
|||||
Post Reply | Page 12> |
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |