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Are there many of these around? Spotted a black 5.7 Aplina yesterday near Rathfarnham - nice noise off the yoke the driver seemed a bit keen to let people know about it tho edit: moved from Irish forum to the Alpina forum Edited by kbannon |
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Genuine B12's would be quite rare. The 5.7 V12 B12 has 387bhp and was produced between 95-98. There were 202 of them made. The later B12 6.0 V12 has 430bhp but there were only 94 of them made!! |
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Yeah it looked quite rare alright not sure which one it was the 5.7 or the 6.0 - All I know is it had a manual gearbox :) Huge ALPINA badge on the back and made lots of noise - too much noise even for an 840 with a boom box ! That Mc F1 must sound amazing. |
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They are as rare as hens teeth in the UK so I'm sure that means that is probably the only one over here. The 8 Series was hugely expensive as it was, can't imagine how much an Alpina would have cost!! It is definitely a future classic though, it is only starting to get the recognition it deserved when it was launched now 16 years later.
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I know someone who has one, very low mileage and he says it's a rare one. Very nice car.
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The 8 series; would have been a great seller if they could have made them secondhand!!!
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better for everyone else is when they sell them on - thirdhand |
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Sorry got the numbers mixed up with the B12 7 series. There were even less B12 8 series. There was a B12 5.0 V12 with 350 bhp, there were only 97 of these made between 1990-1994 and there was then a 5.7 V12 of which there were only 57 made between 1992-1996. So Ultra Rare especially if it was the 5.7 |
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Yeah it was difficult to tell which one it was. Whats the difference between the 850 and the 5.0 B12? Were all the alpinas manual 6 speed? This thing was a V12 with an Alpina badge on the back, it was on irish plates (dublin) very fresh ones at that ! |
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The B12 5.0 was based on the 850i and 850ci. The main differences other than the obvious visuals such as wheels, alpina kit etc are the performance differences. The 850i had 296 bhp and 450NM torque, the B12 has 350bhp and 470mn torque. 0-60 for the 850 is 7.10 V 6,8 for the B12 and the 850 is limited to 251kph whereas the B12 is 283kph. The B12 5.0 had a 4 speed auto box. The 5.7B12 was a different beast. This was based on the 850CSI. This has 416bhp and 570NM torque and came with a 6 speed manual Getrag gearbox which also had a shift tronic system and is the only Alpina to ever have this. 0-60 was 5.8 and this is I think still one one of the fastest Alpinas ever built with a top speed of over 300kph. The new B5 has a top speed of 314kph along with the B6. Edited by leon |
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I've seen this car as well, it has a manual and sounds awesome so it has to be the 5.7 B12. The rear tyres also look a lot bigger than the usual 8 series. Tis a beast! The question is, why the fook isn't he on these boards?! |
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Hes prob too busy drivin his car Its always difficult to tell these cars apart but this yoke does look like the genuine article. Your man wasnt that old late 20s early 30s if anyone comes across it youll prob hear it before you see it esp the way the chap drives |
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There's a 1994 B12 currently for sale on carzone.
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Do you mean this one?? http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=698593 If so I am pretty sure that isnt a genuine Alpina. |
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That's the one, why do you not think it's genuine?? |
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The B8 was based on the 3 series afaik. The car is indicated as a 4.0l whereas the B8's were 4.6 (I think). The steering wheel centre is Alpina but the car is an auto and I think it would likely have the shift buttons on the steering wheel if it were genuine. Looks to me like a regular 840 with Alpina alloys and wheel centre. |
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Shouldnt it have Alpina on the engine cover if its a factory one.
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As Dergside pointed out, The B8 was an E36 Alpina, all 8 series alpinas were B12's and were either 5.7 or 6.0 V12's. ALpina didnt make a V8 8 series, only V12's. The 5.7's were auto but as Dergside pointed out had shift tronic as well. It also doesnt have the correct Alpina Spoilers, nor does it have correct badging. It would also have a numbered plaque if it was genuine. |
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I must start reading up on Alpinas, I'm not too knowledgeable when it comes to them! |
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Leon you are right on the money B8 is 3 series with a 4.6 manual used a bored up v8 wich bmw later used in the x5 cause it was so good. The only other v8 was the B10 in 4.0 size in the e34 and later as 4.6 in the e39's IIRC no 7's They used a different engine cover and air intake that 840 even so a nice car isn't the real thing and hence overpriced. |
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