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    Posted: 14-April-2010 at 15:15

Originally posted by dmac318 dmac318 wrote:

I bought from a BMW main dealer in Dublin 6 last year, not sure of the warranty situation as they have said there is no problem with it. I'll check the warranty details later though.

If bought from a BMW main dealer within the last 12 months then you have a bombproof/waterproof warranty.  Go back to the main dealer provided you bought the car after April 09.  Obviouslywear and tear isn't covered but part failure is.

BMWs accepatable limit for oil consumption in its 6 pot engines (M52 and M54 variety) is something like 1 litre of oil per 600 or 900 miles which sounds horrendous but sounds like you are getting worse than that.

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Originally posted by Dergside Dergside wrote:

Firstly, welcome.  Don't worry, we'll be gentle!

Wow - that's a lot of oil to be consuming.  Its way too much to be just a car that likes a tipple. 

Its got to be going somewhere.  If its not dripping out then it has to be burning or mixing with water in the cooling system.  Is it a 1.9 or 2.0 engine?  The 1.9 has a reputation as a fairly robust engine.  There can be a few problems with the 2.0 version but mostly of the valve gear variety.  Neither are reknowned for drinking like a fish.  There can be problems with crankcase breather valves that can increase oil consumption but it still needs to be going somewhere!

I'd recommend getting a specialist to take a look.  I see you are in Dublin.  There are a few specialists that could be recommended by folks on here depending on the part of town you are in.

You mentioned bringing it back to the dealer you bought from.  Was it a recent buy?  Did you get a warranty?  Without naming names, was it a reputable dealer?  Other than saying they can't find the problem, are they taking any other steps to pursue it for you?

Thanks for the reply, Its actually a 320i not a 318, my brother set this up for me (not to keen on computers myself)

I bought from a BMW main dealer in Dublin 6 last year, not sure of the warranty situation as they have said there is no problem with it. I'll check the warranty details later though.

Its a 2.0 by the way. Who would you reccomend looking at it? To be honest I think the dealer I bought it from is just a **** and I will only go back if its for free.

 

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Firstly, welcome.  Don't worry, we'll be gentle!

Wow - that's a lot of oil to be consuming.  Its way too much to be just a car that likes a tipple. 

Its got to be going somewhere.  If its not dripping out then it has to be burning or mixing with water in the cooling system.  Is it a 1.9 or 2.0 engine?  The 1.9 has a reputation as a fairly robust engine.  There can be a few problems with the 2.0 version but mostly of the valve gear variety.  Neither are reknowned for drinking like a fish.  There can be problems with crankcase breather valves that can increase oil consumption but it still needs to be going somewhere!

I'd recommend getting a specialist to take a look.  I see you are in Dublin.  There are a few specialists that could be recommended by folks on here depending on the part of town you are in.

You mentioned bringing it back to the dealer you bought from.  Was it a recent buy?  Did you get a warranty?  Without naming names, was it a reputable dealer?  Other than saying they can't find the problem, are they taking any other steps to pursue it for you?

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New around here so go easy folks.

I've had 2001 318 for about 18 months and its been drinking oil like amy whinehouse. Go through about 5 litres a month (pretty standard milage 100 mile per week). I have brought it back to the orginal garage and had it looked at by a non BMW specialist too, both said " nothing wrong with it, just likes oil". Surley this must be boll*x? By the way I've changed the brand of oil etc and no difference.

 

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Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

p.s. @ nialldsmith, if you're going to correct someone's grammar/spelling then get yours right first

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If we're being really picky, I would advise the OP that he was probably correct in his spelling and that he should disregard your advice. 

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Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

LOL, a bit touchy!
indeed.

 

p.s. @ nialldsmith, if you're going to correct someone's grammar/spelling then get yours right first

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I'd be too afraid to be his customer if I had an Alpina!
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LOL, a bit touchy!

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its TOO late. really senior member[ or old fart?]and my advice is correct and may help anyone who looks for this advise in the future.if you ve got nothing constructive to say,say nothing.by the way i am an  alpina specialist.
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Originally posted by nialldsmith nialldsmith wrote:

do a sniff test.£25 gsf..if only a little mayo wipe off and spray with silicone spray.£5 halfords.good luck.

 

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do a sniff test.£25 gsf..if only a little mayo wipe off and spray with silicone spray.£5 halfords.good luck.
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Originally posted by Rhys Rhys wrote:

PM 'Oilman' he'll tell you which one you need. I would've doubted it'd have thin oil in unless it was from a rental company (some put cheapo lawnmower oil in cars they get rid of) or any garage worth it's salt. Infact the garage you bought it from should have given it a full service before they sold it to you, shouldn't they?

They did and its been changed again once since then as i dont let oil sit in car for ages. The garage involved 'East Port Garage' in dunfermline have been tremendous. They could have charged me wee bit labour for all theve done and checked but havent.

Oilman recommends a BMW LLo1 fully synth. However i've been topping up with this and having the consumption mentioned. The garage recommendation is using 10w40 instead which is not BMW's hence the 'debate'.

Gonna phone the most respected BM indy in Scotland (Davy @ BM Motors) for his advice.

Cheers all for input and advice on this. Mayo was only trace and hasnt reappeared so put down to bit of water vapour.

Piece of advice i got on another forum was to take car for a run get it up to temp then give it a thorough caning . Dont this twice now its addictive  car seems to be running better than ever.

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With respect to the mayo under the filler cap, I had a similar issue not so long ago which I initially put down to a blown head gasket. However it turned out to be a blocked crankcase breather. This is a system that allows water vapour and oil fumes from the top of the engine to escape tan then be3 mixed with the fuel in the inlet manifold. However if thsi becomes blocked up it prevents the water vapour excaping and causes you to get the water/oil emulsion (mayo) build up on the filler cap and underside of the rocker cover.

I cured the problem by removing the 2 hoses running to the crank case breather unit, one goes to the top, the other to the dipstick, gave them a good clean with WD40. I then flushed the breather assembly itself. This was a real bitch to do as you need to remove lots of bits from the engine bay to access it but it has done the trick.

 

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PM 'Oilman' he'll tell you which one you need. I would've doubted it'd have thin oil in unless it was from a rental company (some put cheapo lawnmower oil in cars they get rid of) or any garage worth it's salt. Infact the garage you bought it from should have given it a full service before they sold it to you, shouldn't they?
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Don't want to start ye old oil debate again but had interesting coversation with service manager when i picked car up.

Basically they have given car full checkover and everything is sweet (quite good getting this done before warranty runs out Wink ).

Advice i got was about piss thin oil. Adviced to use 10w40 and change it every 6>8k.

Given last service was about 5-6k ago im going to do a change myself in next few weeks. Think its about 10 years since i did a oil change myself but i'm determined to run this car to over 100k so i need to start doing some of the maintenance myself (i.e. at least interim changes between services)

Overall im happy the car is in fine fettle and hopefully the oil change will drastically reduce the comsumption Smile

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Garage just phoned back.

Can't find anything wrong at all.

Think i'll do an oil and filter change meself when im off in couple of weeks

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Originally posted by Pete330 Pete330 wrote:

330`s can drink the oil

 

Mine does also

 

Mayo-Replace oilcap and take for a good drive after a nice oil and filter change

Theres drinking oil and having a thirst like Olly Reed

Think i'll do an oil change myself though when i get it back.  

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330`s can drink the oil

 

Mine does also

 

Mayo-Replace oilcap and take for a good drive after a nice oil and filter change

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UPDATE:

Garage phoned. No signs of oil and water/ coolant mixing according to them. Little bit of mayo may just have been water vapour.

Keeping it overnight to have a look at it cold in morning. Doesn't explain the oil use though!

Anybody think doing an oil and filter change wortwhile if they cant find any probs?

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