RS4 beats M3, Autocar 18 July |
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Coasting
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I wouldn't be too sure Peter. Whilst I agree that 11mpg seems extreme, let's not forget that BMW performance models of late are not known for their economy. A fully tanked up BMW M6 will give you a range of 220 miles (approximately), and an M5 will deliver around 14-16 mpg. I'd take a punt on the BMW M3 returning 17 mpg at best - and I mean at very best. My 4.4 V8 is in nothing like the state of tune that the 4.0 V8 in the M3 is, and i'll get 20.9 mpg. So, take a very highly tuned 4.0 V8, and you can bank on dropping at least 25% off that. |
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Evo's longterm Audi Rs4 return around 23mpg month on month iirc, which isn't bad.... but that drop to 12 - 14 mpgs on track according to reports on other forums, not sure if that's a figure from the OBC or a calculated figure, but if I calculate a figure from fuel used I always get a slightly higher figure compared to the OBC.
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Peter Fenwick
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I don't doubt it will be heavy on juice, I just think that the avearge owner is going to get a few more mpg than the bunch of motoring journallists on their first drive, where they will have been pushing the car hard. Lets be honest in most driving situations, speed cameras and traffic prevent us from putting our foot down, whereas they will have deliberately chosen a route that was quiet to allow them to do just that. I'm quite sure 11mpg is representative of what the car will get when driven hard. |
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///M3Mick
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OMG!!!! Journalists-in-flog-a-car-as-hard-as-you-can-but-only-get-11 mpg-shocker!!!!!!!!!!!! I am actually shocked the pu**ies didn't manage to get it under 11!! Alex, I don't doubt the veracity of your quote but that comment about the zonda is absolute and total bullsh1t, no doubt about it. These guys took the car, ragged the crap out of it, probably powersliding the thing all over the place, revving it to 8200 rpm in every gear available and then complain about mpg????? IS this what passes for motoring journalism these days? I frequently get 8-9mpg at mondello, often get low teens around town and this is what happens when I am stuck in traffic for a while:
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larzyh
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It does seem a bit ridiculous to get hung-up on fuel consumption in a 400 hp, E100.000 car. ///M3Mick - presumably you could get that figure even lower, with some strategic re-setting of the obc. Do you reset your odometer after fuelling? I would be quite impressed with your 482.8, if the answer is yes. |
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Larzyh.
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///M3Mick
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No larzy, that reading was taken over around a 3 mile slog through rush hour dublin traffic one night when it literally took me 15 mintues to get approx 500 yards from the gates of the office. I knew it was going to be a doozy so I reset the mpg but not the odo. It took me around 1.5 hours to get from harcourt street to drumcondra. An extreme situation I grant you, but 11mpg is not a ridiculous figure given the right conditions. The problem with these guys is that quotes like this get taken as gospel......people will be going around now saying stuff like, "oh I heard the new M3 only gets 11mpg"
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larzyh
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What I meant by "ridiculous" is worrying about fuel consumption in an expensive, high-performance car. I would expect a 400 horsepower car to get thirsty when driven hard and if that's a problem to anyone there's always the 318d.
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Larzyh.
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Yeah but we all like a bit of pace now and again... Edited by 635CSi |
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larzyh
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Absolutely, 635CSI but I never complain about fuel consumption when driving hard and if anybody is concerned with fuel consumption the M3 surely isn't the right car for them.
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Larzyh.
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I'm sure if you can afford a brand new M3, you can certainly afford the running costs. |
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Coasting
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Exactly. Your average new M3 buyer isn't going to give two hoots about 11mpg, 21mpg or whatever it actually returns. Anyway, if they're happy to pay a ridiculous price for the car when it's first released then I'm sure they'll not be bothered if it returns 5mpg to be honest. |
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