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    Posted: 06-November-2003 at 11:33

What is the best way for me to get 180bhp out of the 318iS engine?

First thing I've ordered is a K&N Airfilter, original exhaust, but may change that.... and was thinking of gettin a superchip...

anything more that can be done?

Plan's are to create a "Baby - M3"..  180bhp out of a 1.8 normally aspirated engine,... just like its bigger brothers... 100bhp per 1000cc..

That would be possible wouldn't  it?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 12:29
I hate to say this, but you stand no chance of getting 180BHP from a M42 engine, unless you add a turbo or supercharge the engine.

Chip and larger throttle body will release an extra 20BHP if your lucky, i don't think there is much to be gained from the exhaust.

Mag recently ran an article on a turbo charged 318is, developed 190BHP, the M42 engine is too high a compression to turn the boost up high.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 12:40

Really... damn...

so what do you think is the max i will get out of it?

my aim to get my 0 - 60 times to drop to early 7s than that would be ok aswell... i mean is that poss without any sort of turbo's.. nitrous..etc?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 12:57

I have to disagree with this.

Ant (who runs the Tuning Zone on the http://www.e30zone.co.uk ). Has some M42 chips in the pipeline which are looking very promising. Check out the site or mail him at chips@e30zone.co.uk .

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 13:00

everyone here is giving some excellent advice... thanks guys...

so has anyone actually got a 318is with that much power?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 14:07
I have to say Im a sceptic on this one. It comes a sstandard with 143bhp and the most you will probably get would be 160bhp. See B Purcells great site on tuning his 318is.
http://www.esatclear.ie/~bpurcell/

However to acheiev 180bhp you are talking serious money investment for a supercharger etc as Mark R pointed out and balance that cost against buying a 320is with the s14 engine and you will find the 320is wiould probably be cheaper.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 14:12
so does the E30 318is have 136bhp or 143bhp? i suppose 160 would be very respectable aswell... that should knock off about 1 or 2 sec's of 0-60 times... shouldnt it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 14:20
Sorry - 136bhp not 143bhp
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 14:45
Officially they are 136bhp @ 6,000 & 127lbft @ 4,600 but i had my iS rolling roaded last w/kend at Noble Motorsport, Chesterfield (where they make Noble M12 engines) and their rollers reckoned my car was making 146.3bhp @ 6,457 and 127.5 lbft @ 5,450 with no mods at all. Only thing was a head skim last January when the head gasket gave up on me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 14:46

Re-mapped ECU, induction system, cat back exhaust, big-bore throttle body, a power pulley, gas-flowed head, performance cams, lightened/ balanced engine parts? To fit a turbo will have to lower the compression i.e new pistons (shorter engine life!)

Or the (much) cheaper/better option, swap the engine!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 15:04

swap the engine? for what ? more performance..

i think even with 136bhp the car is FAT... i believe BMW made this engine similar to the Mk2 Golf GTi 16v.. similar power... but gti's faster cause its lighter...  but they sound similar though...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 15:15

Swapping engines is a difficult job. Trouble is to change for a 4 pot to 6 pot you need the engine loom also. Cheaper option again would be to buy a 325i.

Think your better off doing the usual mods and seeing what kind of improvements you can get. Plus know what your car was like in standard for. Then if it's not enough move on to a 6 pot or M3.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 15:27
Actually i like the 318is... otherwise i could have bought a 325i...  The E30 318is must be one of the best engines avaialble for the car, you dont really need a 6 pot to move it fast..  325i nice but drink lots.. insurance/parts everything is more... so after gettin all of ur advice i think im going to keep the car as original as poss... just get a superchip, K&N.. Alpina 16"s.. and Im sorted...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 16:25
16" Alpinas will look the muts but it'll slow accelaration a bit. Can't beat 14"s for that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 16:40
really... 16" will slow it down that much... what about 15" BBS crosspokes...? i want to have a balance between handling and performance... currently i have the originals... 14" BBS Crosspoke.. they seem to be ok.. but when going around corner(fast) i feel some loss of grip...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 16:49

The loss of grip is more likely due to poor quality tyres as the 14" x-spokes are only 0.5 " narrower than the 15"/16". Also, bear in mind the E30 will naturally understeer on a light throttle but will oversteer with a good dose of the right boot!

Really the change in accelaration speeds will not be that noticeable, only said that coz i would like a set of 16" Alpinas but can't afford them.   So i was making myself feel better about the 14".

The iS came as standard with Steelies & trims, any kind of alloy wheel was an extra.

Best reason for going to a 15"/16" wheel is the better choice of decent tyres at afford able prices, in 14" you are limited to Pirelli, Michelin or the **** stuff like Kwik Fit Specials.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 17:07
you joker... BOB... making yourself feel better...haha.. so u also have the 14 i assume? ill be looking for for good qulity alpinas maybe... but now it may just be 15" bbs cross spokes.. they keep the car looking more original and they seem to fit the arches well aswell..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 17:08

15" BBS rims are the best for a E30!!!!!!!  possibly lower it as well?

Tyres are one of the most inportant aspects of the handling of a car - get the best you can afford!

Remember when fitting an induction kit, unless its enclosed and/or a cold air feed your will actually lose power cause of heat of engine - colder the air the more dense it is, the most dense it is the more oxygen - better combustion.

'Chipping' the engine will increase petrol comsumption, also chips work better with cat back exhaust (back box won't do anything!) and a cone filter.

Skim the head too, will increase compression.

Job done. Good luck!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 17:19

Sorry, was probably over estimating the money you had to spend, wid the engine swap business - but tis the only way your get that performance you wanted, was thinking a M20 2.3L, 0-60 is about 8sec.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-November-2003 at 18:31

Good luck finding a set of BBS split rims with a 4 stud pattern!! The odds are better for finding the Alpinas but even then your looking at the £500+ mark for a rough set that need a refurb.

Yeah, i've got the 14" x-spokes, i love the look on the E30 but when it takes as long to clean the wheels as the rest of the car i sometimes long for some lovely 3 spoke alloys.   

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