How rare are E12s?

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Hi

A question for the older beemer nutcases out there 

I've just seen an ad for a nice BMW e12 520 in which the seller, a classics dealer by the looks of it, says that there are less than 10 E12 520 models left in the UK.

I suppose if had said there were less than 10 E12s of all kinds that would have been wrong, but still, only 10 520s left? Nearly all the e12s i've seen for sale (about 3 in total i think) over the last three or four months have been 520s.

Its a 1978 car, so would soon qualify for VRT and tax free status, hence my interest.

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itsfixed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 19-November-2007 Location: Celbridge, Co. Kildare Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote itsfixed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: How rare are E12s? Posted: 05-February-2008 at 11:31
	Hi A question for the older beemer nutcases out there I've just seen an ad for a nice BMW e12 520 in which the seller, a classics dealer by the looks of it, says that there are less than 10 E12 520 models left in the UK. I suppose if had said there were less than 10 E12s of all kinds that would have been wrong, but still, only 10 520s left? Nearly all the e12s i've seen for sale (about 3 in total i think) over the last three or four months have been 520s. Its a 1978 car, so would soon qualify for VRT and tax free status, hence my interest. Edited by itsfixed

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Dergside Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-May-2004 Location: Mid West, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4000	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dergside Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05-February-2008 at 12:04
	They are getting rare, but not that rare. Either the dealer is talking his car up or else he's being very specific about some attribute or specification that accounts for the rarity. Either way, don't let them talk it up too much or be talked in to paying too much on the basis of rarity. Edited by Dergside
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Oisin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Joined: 26-May-2004 Location: Ireland_Millstreet Co.Cork Status: Offline Points: 490	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oisin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05-February-2008 at 12:16
	http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=871259 this is an E12 ya??
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itsfixed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 19-November-2007 Location: Celbridge, Co. Kildare Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote itsfixed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05-February-2008 at 12:56
	No, its an E3, the one that came before the e12. I'm surprised the owner says its e12. Maybe not a died-in-the-wool older beemer enthusiast, methinks. Looks nice though. Edited by itsfixed

Oisin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Joined: 26-May-2004 Location: Ireland_Millstreet Co.Cork Status: Offline Points: 490	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oisin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05-February-2008 at 13:01
	the shark nose!! am I correct? Still alot to learn so!
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Oisin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Joined: 26-May-2004 Location: Ireland_Millstreet Co.Cork Status: Offline Points: 490	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oisin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05-February-2008 at 13:03
	oh hhhh thats the E28...........im shutting up. sorry
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Bayerische Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member II Joined: 14-June-2007 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 216	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bayerische Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05-February-2008 at 13:50
	I was looking at that ad for the e12. It's a beautiful car but I don't think they are nearly as rare as the vendor is suggesting. It is difficult to get a good one though as they do suffer from rust just like any old BMW. If you do buy the car I would garage it to keep it in its garage queen status. These old beauties can deteriorate very quickly. Regards, Bayerische
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73touring Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Joined: 16-December-2005 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 299	Post Options Post Reply Quote 73touring Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05-February-2008 at 17:34
	No there not nearly that rare, Id hold out for a 528 if your looking for a Exempt car. The chap with the E3 3.0si obviously is no BM nut for a start it would have been in the 7 series class (Some of them had double glazing) The E12 was smaller and ran along side the E3.
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Curley Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Joined: 28-February-2006 Location: Allenwood, KIldare Status: Offline Points: 431	Post Options Post Reply Quote Curley Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05-February-2008 at 21:21
	Off hand I can think of 3 irish registered e12 520 (all autos btw) and 3 scrappers in kildare alone. They're not that rare by a long shot and were considered the first five series, if anything they directly replaced the 4 door Neue Klasse range. They like to rust but not as bad as the e28, e12 was a heavier car with thicker gauge steel but don't have the popularity of the e28. I personally like the pre 77 model, drove one a few years ago and had very similar road manners to a 2002 a very enjoyable experience. http://e12.assertion.de/primary/01001l20.htm
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Andy Butler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member II Joined: 06-August-2004 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 208	Post Options Post Reply Quote Andy Butler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05-February-2008 at 23:14
	As Curley and Rob say, there are still plenty E12s left around. I had the pleaseure of looking at two very rare Turbo Alpina versions recently and a friend has bought a very rare '76 530 MLE from South Africa. Fantastic car.
	Andrew Butler

Curley Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Joined: 28-February-2006 Location: Allenwood, KIldare Status: Offline Points: 431	Post Options Post Reply Quote Curley Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05-February-2008 at 23:37
	I'm really looking forward to seeing the MLE at the Spawell over the summer months... Any hints Andy on your new toy or when its going to be revealed ????
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Andy Butler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member II Joined: 06-August-2004 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 208	Post Options Post Reply Quote Andy Butler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06-February-2008 at 19:45
	Hi Tom, My secret car will be ready for the summer, a little later than I had hoped. What it is, you will just have to wait. Haha. You won't be dissappointed though. Seeing it in the flesh the other week was fantastic. Its going to be a cracker.
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